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Old 08-30-2007, 06:04 PM   #31
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Old 08-31-2007, 03:01 AM   #32
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I love the way this thread is going, I'm going to ask my BF (solicitor/lawyer) about the test case thing and report back.

If there are any other legal bods in the house that would be interesting.

I'm pretty sure it is illegal, but I am also interested to know if there are any specific biblical/torah/q'uran etc passages regarding necrophilia. Do any of our scripture experts know anything about this?
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Old 09-01-2007, 09:08 AM   #33
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Though not a necrophile, I am fascinated by necrophiles.

Necrophiles present an interesting conundrum. While to all appearances, necrophilia would seem to be the ultimate objectification of the human body as a sex object (i.e. in the vein of "I was just a body to him/ he just used me for sex"), if you actually read the narrations of necrophiles, they feel a very explicit and tender bond with the "person" they are having sex with.
That's quite interesting! I am somewhat skeptical about the "bonding" claim when I reflect over how folks who bond with each other tend to want to please their partner. Surely, the notion of physical epiphany for a corpse is out of the picture.Let alone any response suggesting to the necrophiliac partner "you make me happy". Such necrophiliac would have to experience a high level of delusional thinking to even perceive any signs of gratitude or satisfaction from a corpse to identify to the sense of bonding human beings experience while being sexually intimate.
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In a very roundabout and unscientific way, this could be viewed as an argument for a soul that survives the body. The necrophiliac very clearly senses a sentient being attached to the lifeless body, and were such a being to exist beyond death, it would indicate some kind of existence beyond mortality.
Even within that concept, the "bonding" remains a one way process. Unless such "sentient being" is somehow able to receive physical gratification thru that lifeless body.Or is that "being" an ectoplasmic voyeur who gets kicks out of peeping over such intimacy?
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Of course it could be argued that this is all pure delusion on the part of the necrophile, but nevertheless I am fascinated by the fact that this intense delusion exists, and that it dons a sexual cloak.
What I personally find fascinating is how some members of our species cannot experience sexual arousal without a specific context. That their psyche is such that para objects or contexts must be existent for them to release their libido needs. It seems so alien to a mind who associates sexual arousal to bonding resulting from emotional and mental harmony with a mate.
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As far as the morality of the practice, the crux absolutely is concern for the surviving loved one. If you believe in a soul, then there are consent issues.

For your reading pleasure:

The Unrepentant Necrophile
Applied to a clinically dead individual whose brain trauma has caused irremediable cortical and stem damages, I guarantee you that a moral issue would be raised. Even though such patient is essentially "dead".(according to the Brain Death Determination Act).Anyone engaging in sexual intimacy with such "post persona" will face criminal charges such as sexual assault.

No matter which "bonding" claim they may hold. I think the vulnerability factor of deceased persons (to include our clinically dead patient) is what raises a moral issue. If no harm can be perceived or experienced by both a deceased person or brain dead patient, the reality remains that there is a process of exploitation of their bodies to fulfill someone else's needs. No differently IMO than if someone were to harvest either bodily fluids or organs to meet his/her needs. IMO, the privacy and exclusive right of ownership of our organs and their use extends past legal death. That's why no organs and bodily fluids can be harvested without prior consent.
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Old 09-01-2007, 10:54 PM   #34
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In my opinion, necrophilia is no less harmful than having sex with a tree or a car. Thus, the criminal penalties of having sex with dead corpses should be no more severe than having sex with other inanimate material possesions.
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