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Old 12-08-2005, 05:08 PM   #1
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Default Contradictions towards the sanctity of marriage

I was thinking one day: If God cares so much about the sanctity of marriage, why would he choose to impregnate a woman who was already married to bear His child?

Furthermore, the idea of monogamy is heavily stressed in Christianity, yet all nuns are said to be the wives of God/Jesus?

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many of gods actions show that he is a "do as I say, not do as I do" kind of guy. Hypocracy? yes, but he is god after all and can do what he likes
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I was thinking one day: If God cares so much about the sanctity of marriage, why would he choose to impregnate a woman who was already married to bear His child?
First she was not already married. She was engaged. And this proves God's plan for the family because every child should grow up with a Father God provided Christ an earthly Stepfather. Even secular studies have shown that those children who grow up with a father are less likely to become criminals.

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Furthermore, the idea of monogamy is heavily stressed in Christianity, yet all nuns are said to be the wives of God/Jesus?
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This is a false teaching of the Catholic church. No where is that notion taught in Scripture. Although I agree with you their position is one of hypocrisy.
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First, what's the deal with using a different font from the rest of us? The only thing it's going to do is annoy people.

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First she was not already married. She was engaged.
True.

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And this proves God's plan for the family because every child should grow up with a Father God provided Christ an earthly Stepfather.
I don't see how this proves anything.

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Even secular studies have shown that those children who grow up with a father are less likely to become criminals.
Was there a chance Jesus was going to grow up to be a criminal? :rolling:

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This is a false teaching of the Catholic church. No where is that notion taught in Scripture. Although I agree with you their position is one of hypocrisy.
Ah, yes, Sola Scriptura. Haven't heard that doctrine in a while.

It's kinda weird being an ex-Catholic atheist who was previously strongly anti-Protestant. Though I think all of Christianity and religion is bunk, I still feel an attachment to Catholicism and want to defend it against Protestants.
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Was there a chance Jesus was going to grow up to be a criminal? :rolling:
Com'on man! My point was God's plan for marriage is the best plan.

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Ah, yes, Sola Scriptura. Haven't heard that doctrine in a while.
Actually you judge to quickly. I'm actually mostly Orthodox in my beliefs. So I do hold to the first 6-8 church councils but a council never contradicts Scripture they just restated it. And no council ever said anything about the teachings that nun's are wives of God or Christ.
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Com'on man! My point was God's plan for marriage is the best plan.
I agree that having two parents is best for children.

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Actually you judge to quickly. I'm actually mostly Orthodox in my beliefs. So I do hold to the first 6-8 church councils but a council never contradicts Scripture they just restated it. And no council ever said anything about the teachings that nun's are wives of God or Christ.
On what grounds do you accept some councils but not others? And nuns being the "wives of Christ" is simply a metaphor. It's not a doctrine in even the weakest sense of the word. It's no more a doctrine than "Jesus is my homeboy."
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On what grounds do you accept some councils but not others? And nuns being the "wives of Christ" is simply a metaphor. It's not a doctrine in even the weakest sense of the word. It's no more a doctrine than "Jesus is my homeboy."
Well as you know our church split out of the RC church. Those councils held after our leaving were purely Catholic councils not "Church Councils". The claims such as indulgences,Mary being co-redemptrix and other things the RC church espoused later were never held by the Eastern Orthodox church we also didn't burn people at the stake. The RC church did a grave injustice when they outlawed the Bible as well. Although I admit the second vatican council fixed much of the problems in the RC church. Except the whole molesting thing. Orthodox priests can marry.
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First she was not already married. She was engaged. And this proves God's plan for the family because every child should grow up with a Father God provided Christ an earthly Stepfather. Even secular studies have shown that those children who grow up with a father are less likely to become criminals.
Are you not aware that betrothal was much more than our simple concept of engagement? It was part of the marriage contract and for all intents and purposes she was married. Only the physical contact would be yet to come. In fact the only way to break the betrothal would be to obtain a decree of divorcement.

Again, why did god impregnate a married woman?
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In Biblical days, as in most preindustrial societies, young girls would get engaged and or married as soon after puberty as possible. There would have been no available unmarried or unengaged women capable of bearing children around.
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