Maklelan

No one is arguing he's a competent historian. What's being argued is that the fact that he's a ideologue who was selective in his sources and mixed up chronologies does not mean that he simply fabricated everything he wrote.

aa5874

Well, to save some time just tell us what Eusebius fabricated.

Maklelan

I think he interpolated little things here and there, but not particularly frequently. Probably the most famous example is his manipulation of Josephus' reference to Jesus.

aa5874

Come on. Please tell us about those other "little things".

Maklelan

Are you not satisfied to discuss the one I provided? Are you trying to suggest I really don't know much about this?

aa5874

Tell us about those other "little things". Everbody knows about the fraudulent TF and the interpolation in "Antiquities" 18.3.3 and 20.9.1.

You seem to know some other "little things".

Maklelan

Yeah, but I'm kinda curious how you tackle the TF, and I think you're trying to be evasive. Let's address that first.

aa5874

I am way past the fraudulent TF.

I am into Clement of Rome, the INVENTED Bishop, and the bogus letter to the Corinthians which will bring down everybody.

Once you get Clement, its lights out.

Maklelan

I don't think you are. I think you're just a somewhat intelligent hobbyist who has fooled himself into thinking he's the paragon of objectivity and erudition. You have convinced yourself that the people who have committed their lives and careers to understanding the languages, literature, and cultures of the ancient Near East and the Greco-Roman world are all just knuckle-dragging ideologues, while the armchair scholars who don't understand the languages and don't actually read the literature have the real advantage. It's the very pinnacle of hubris and ignorance, and the fact that you have to dodge half of the things I say to you in order to have anything at all to say is all the confirmation I need.

At least your objective and unbiased analysis of the ancient sources already has a clear and specific goal. Wouldn't it be a huge waste to spend all that time pretending to deal with the sources if you didn't come to the conclusion you had before you started?

stephan huller

Or maybe aa is quite simply mentally deranged ...