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Old 02-25-2005, 06:47 PM   #41
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It is my intention to move ahead as quickly as possible to some hands on exercises or 'homework' for interested parties.
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Moving ahead then, the time has come for the interested and honest readers of this thread to prove to me, to yourselves and to the entire world that you are not just a bunch simple minded slaves to the machinations of Christianity.
I will ask that you take one of the most sacred and pervasive icons of the Judeao-Christian religious cults and slice it into small pieces.......
Are you scared yet?

Obtain a common calendar, an old discarded out of date one will serve fine, one with large sized, square 'date' blocks will work the best, having obtained one, take a sharp blade, (a razor blade, exacto-knife or scissors will work just fine) and cut along the lines, cutting every leaf into square blocks, each day a block. (Hey! Wow!, A Kindergarten crafts project!)
Now you can begin to rearrange them in a different pattern:
(Now don't be afraid, that same old calendar that you are all familiar with will still be hanging upon walls all over the place, and this exercise will not destroy or replace it)

Take the pieces you have cut and place them in the following manner.
Horizontally in the top row, arrange days numbered 1 through 15,
in the second row arrange days numbered 16 through 30,
in the third row numbers 1 through 15 again,
in the fourth row, numbers 16 through 30,
in the fifth row, numbers 1 through 15,
in the sixth row, numbers 16 through 30,
and in the seventh row, numbers 1 through 15.
You may want to take time to glue these to a backing so that they will stay as arranged.
(you will have a lot left over, just keep them in a box for latter)

Now color in the seventh square in the top row, and the fourteenth square,(I suggest using a light blue marker, though other colors will work, but use a light color as you will asked to write over it latter, and you will want your writing to be legible)
In the second row, color in the sixth square, and the thirteenth square,
In the third row, color in the fifth square, and the twelfth square,
In the fourth row, color in the fourth square, and the eleventh square,
In the fifth row, color in the third square, and the tenth square,
In the sixth row, color in the second square, and the ninth square,
And in the seventh row, color in the first square, and the eighth square and the fifteenth square.
Now locate a clear space on the top left hand square, and clearly write the number one, in a similar place in the second square, write the number two, and in the third square, write the number three,
and in the fourth square, write the number four,
and in the fifth square, write the number five,
and in the sixth square, write the number six,
and in the seventh square, write the number seven,
and in the eighth square, write the number one,
and in the ninth square, write the number two,
and in the tenth square, write the number three, and thus continue until all of the first row has been numbered through seven twice, the far right fifteenth square, number as one. In the second row begin on the left, and write in the number two
Now follow this same procedure vertically, until all one hundred and five squares have been assigned numbers.
I will continue this when there is sufficient indication to me that enough of you have completed your 'homework exercise' for us to move ahead.
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Old 02-25-2005, 07:35 PM   #42
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Coming from a book where friday night through sunday morning is three days and three nights. I would love to be that guy's travel agent.

I did your thing Sheshbazzar and you've descovered modular numbers and that pattern works for almost any number.

The reason why 7 is magical and why ancient people would have attached some meaning to it is because 7 days are "approximately" one cycle of the moon. So I am curious, if 7 is so important why make the moons rotation not be 28 days?


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friday night through sunday morning is three days and three nights.
I intend to address this very subject latter.
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The reason why 7 is magical and why ancient people would have attached some meaning to it is because 7 days are "approximately" one cycle of the moon. So I am curious, if 7 is so important why make the moons rotation not be 28 days? Mike
The number 7 is not "magical" to me, but a practical mathematical and geometrical consideration.
Like the questions concerning Egyptian measures and the mathematics incorporated into the building of the pyramids, the length of lunar cycles are only a minor consideration in this presentation, this also will be addressed latter.
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Moving ahead then, the time has come for the interested and honest readers of this thread to prove to me, to yourselves and to the entire world that you are not just a bunch simple minded slaves to the machinations of Christianity.
I will ask that you take one of the most sacred and pervasive icons of the Judeao-Christian religious cults and slice it into small pieces.......
Are you scared yet?

Obtain a common calendar, an old discarded out of date one will serve fine, one with large sized, square 'date' blocks will work the best, having obtained one, take a sharp blade, (a razor blade, exacto-knife or scissors will work just fine) and cut along the lines, cutting every leaf into square blocks, each day a block. (Hey! Wow!, A Kindergarten crafts project!)
Now you can begin to rearrange them in a different pattern:
(Now don't be afraid, that same old calendar that you are all familiar with will still be hanging upon walls all over the place, and this exercise will not destroy or replace it)

Take the pieces you have cut and place them in the following manner.
Horizontally in the top row, arrange days numbered 1 through 15,
in the second row arrange days numbered 16 through 30,
in the third row numbers 1 through 15 again,
in the fourth row, numbers 16 through 30,
in the fifth row, numbers 1 through 15,
in the sixth row, numbers 16 through 30,
and in the seventh row, numbers 1 through 15.
You may want to take time to glue these to a backing so that they will stay as arranged.
(you will have a lot left over, just keep them in a box for latter)

Now color in the seventh square in the top row, and the fourteenth square,(I suggest using a light blue marker, though other colors will work, but use a light color as you will asked to write over it latter, and you will want your writing to be legible)
In the second row, color in the sixth square, and the thirteenth square,
In the third row, color in the fifth square, and the twelfth square,
In the fourth row, color in the fourth square, and the eleventh square,
In the fifth row, color in the third square, and the tenth square,
In the sixth row, color in the second square, and the ninth square,
And in the seventh row, color in the first square, and the eighth square and the fifteenth square.
Now locate a clear space on the top left hand square, and clearly write the number one, in a similar place in the second square, write the number two, and in the third square, write the number three,
and in the fourth square, write the number four,
and in the fifth square, write the number five,
and in the sixth square, write the number six,
and in the seventh square, write the number seven,
and in the eighth square, write the number one,
and in the ninth square, write the number two,
and in the tenth square, write the number three, and thus continue until all of the first row has been numbered through seven twice, the far right fifteenth square, number as one. In the second row begin on the left, and write in the number two
Now follow this same procedure vertically, until all one hundred and five squares have been assigned numbers.
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Now make seven copies, and set them in order, one above the other.
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Taking the measure of the three hundred and sixty seven and a half day year, fifty two and one half weeks has seven divisions of seven and a half weeks, (fifty two and a half days or twelve hundred and sixty hours)
How many days are in a "year" ? The answer depends on precisely what manner of "year" is being considered.
The ancient word for year is "shana" meaning a 'repetition' or 'revolution' or to complete a 'circuit', that 'circuit' can be of any length as long as the individual units within the sets of "years" are exactly equal.
Each "day" has eighty six thousand four hundred seconds, each "week" has "seven days", and each "seven day week" has six hundred four thousand eight hundred seconds, fifty two and a half "weeks" have thirty one million seven hundred fifty two thousand seconds, this is of course longer than either "the solar year" or "the lunar year".
This provides three different measuring 'reeds', thus by beginning upon the self-same "day" that is accounted as the "first day of the week" and being also the "first day of the solar year", and also as "the first day of the lunar year", beginning to count at the agreed first second of each, and with the first second of the first "day" of a 'standard measuring year', any length of time, manner of, or number of years may be calculated.
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actually the problem Sheshbazzar is that our year doesn't conveniently work out on a 7 day a week schedule because it's approximately 52.179 weeks per year (365 and 1/4 days per year) and lunar calendar is worse. If seven was so convenient why not make a year 364 days and lunar 28 days and we wouldn't have to worry about leap years, leap months (lunar calendars), and leap seconds.


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It came to pass after many days that there came that day when my count had reached the end of 567 weeks of diligently keeping track of the "years", the "months", (and the 'times' of each "new moon") the weeks, days, hours, minutes and the seconds,
That was seven years ago,
How many years have you now devoted to carefully studying the subjects of time and measurement?
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It came to pass after many days that there came that day when my count had reached the end of 567 weeks of diligently keeping track of the "years", the "months", (and the 'times' of each "new moon") the weeks, days, hours, minutes and the seconds,
That was seven years ago,
How many years have you now devoted to carefully studying the subjects of time and measurement?
So you have 81 weeks a year? What is the length of your week?


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So you have 81 weeks a year?
You were able to figure it out on your very own, that 567 weeks has 7 divisions of 81 weeks?
Did it also occur to you that 567 weeks likewise has 81 divisions of 7 weeks?

How many hours are in 7 of your days?
How many days are in 7 of your weeks?
How many hours are in 7 of your weeks?

How many hours are in 70 of your days?
How many days are in 70 of your weeks?
How many hours are in 70 of your weeks?

Are all of your measures perfect and equal?
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Did it also occur to you that 567 weeks likewise has 81 divisions of 7 weeks?
Hence I came up with a year with 81 weeks in it

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How many hours are in 7 of your days?
168

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How many days are in 7 of your weeks?
49

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How many hours are in 7 of your weeks?
343

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How many hours are in 70 of your days?
1680

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How many days are in 70 of your weeks?
490

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How many hours are in 70 of your weeks?
11760


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Are all of your measures perfect and equal?
I'm not sure exactly what you mean but yes as an hour being defined as a certain amount of vibrations of a cesium (I think) atom.

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