Amlodhi

That's easy. With their free-will just like they do now.

Forget whether you would feel responsible. Would you still elect to have that child if you knew for an absolute fact that his choices would result in his spending eternity in hell?

Well, would you?

P.S. I (for one) would still like to hear your position on that flood date.

I look forward to your responses.

Amlodhi

DISSIDENT AGGRESSOR

After further study I have to revoke my statement.. babies do indeed deserve hell!

1.They worship a false god, who ever or what ever gives them their milk, and not the one true God, therefore
breaking the first commandment.

2.They then force the sin of pride upon their parents [and other family members] by being so darn cute demanding full attention and having graven images of them taken and then forced on people that all must glorify their Divine cuteness! therefore...

3.They force their parents name there babies Jesus, Mohammad and other perverse, vain, assertions of God ! therefore...

4.They act as if every day is Sunday, I have yet to see one baby work a lick!
What do they do but lay around all 24-7! therefore...


5.They honor noone save their own selfish lay around smelly diapered butts all
day! therefore...

6.They murdered millions maybe billions to be the one and only [except some twins, boy watch out for double baby!] fetus! Making abortion doctors look pro-life! therefore...

7.Babies are resposible for adultery as well! [Please don't ask for "evidense" or "proof", if you can't figure this one out you're wacked!] therefore...

8.Let's not forget all the time, money and attention the selfish sinners steal!
therefore...

9.Ask them if they ate all the brownies and they'll lie! Buuba or sissie did it!
therefore...

10.And they always are coveting what everyone else's got, MINE!

Repent you selfish babies!

Especially you Baby Jesus!

Magus55

Where as you should be putting a warning up for people attacking the person, not the argument?

Magus55

Nope, because the only humans that exist were that ones that would choose Heaven. They are predestined to Heaven by not allowing those who choose Hell to exist. And how do you exercise free will if you don't exist? Could you choose to believe in God or not before you were born?

Probably, but since I never have to worry about this scenario, its irrelevent.


I don't really have much of a position on it, I really don't care when it happened, I only believe it happened.

doubtingthomas

Magus, tell me, what is more merficul and loving, creating something that you know will suffer for all eternity or not creating it at all because of what it will endure? The reason I ask you is because If I were allowed a glimpse at my childs fate, and knew absolutely that it would suffer for all eternity, then I would not have it. In fact, I would say that anyone who would do such a thing is immoral; at the very lest such a person should be considered unmerciful. But how is this relevant? The reasion it is relevant is because the same thing would apply to God.

xxthe_leewitxx

In the future, comments about moderation should be made in the Bugs and Complaints forum, and not in the thread in question. That having been said...

This thread needs to be heading down a more civil track. Attacks on other posters will not be tolerated; attacks on ideas are, as always, completely kosher.

Thank you,
the Leewit

Sauron

BZZT. Not the same thing.

You claimed that everyone had sinned. Having a sin nature is not the same as actually committing a sin.

Care to try again?

Sauron

They're attacking your evasiveness and dishonesty. The failure to support your arguments, the shifting positions, etc.

If you didn't behave like that, then there wouldn't anything to attack in the first place.

JoyJuice

Interesting, but if the pre-Christ Jew was saved by faith in God, why the need of the sacrifice?

Jack the Bodiless

Magus55:
...Why?

If the Bible is so clearly wrong about WHEN it happened: why persist in believing that it DID happen?