IRON MAN

Okay, help me out with this one guys. Can the bible be disproved in the future by any means?

For example, does it not say that Babylon will never exist again. It would be conceivable to go to the site of Babylon, and build a city there, name it, "Babylon", and if it is not instantly struck by a bolt from heaven, then say, "Well, that proves the bible wrong."

I know these guys have a way of weaseling out of this after the fact, even if they agree to a condition in the first place - like the whole flat earth, and centre of the universe thing.

I mean even if you managed to protect a city construction project from religious zealots attempting to prevent it's construction, if it fell 500 years later they would claim a victory.

Give me some ideas here. Would it be possible to pick a future occurance that God/Jesus in particular said would never ever, ever, ever, in a gazillion years, cross-my-heart-and-hope-to-die happen, get the churche's agreement on this as a watertight issue, and then attempt to actually make it happen?

Nectaris

Welcome to IIDB, IRON MAN.

I hate to say it, but I think you've answered your own question. If your ever bored do a google search under "Christian apologetics" with the quotation marks in place. Some interesting reading and some strange interpretations of what other wise looks like pretty straightforward text. Also you can just keep reading these forums.

Aren't groups that have predicted the end of the world numerous times still around?

Dave

Evil Sentient Duck

Anything can be redefined.

I was going to say that the day we actually colonize another planet might do it, but......... :banghead:

Maybe if we ever come into contact with intelligent critters from another world. :huh:

But then, there is the "sheep of another fold" verse. :banghead:


I think if history continues to record how many times the Christian story has had to be edited and re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-redefined people will eventually get the hint.

I hope......

IRON MAN

Thanks for your replies fellas, and Dave it was a thread on apologetics that made me remember this idea, but I'll give another example to show exactly the point I am trying to make.

And yes I know we all have historical apologetics that are just plain ... :banghead: to the point of ... :angry:

But consider this: The JWs predicted the end of the world a couple of times, which they now of course deny. One of those times was 1975, and was one of the worst and most blatant cases. The simple fact is that making a blunder of this magnitude lost them membership - big time.

Of course you will point out that there are some hardcore zealots that will never wake up - but to hell with them anyway, they would not change their belief if God himself told them it was all bullshit. And of course there are new members who did not "witness" the error.

The point is, it was enough to shake loose alot of people who were genuinely searching for the truth.

Image if there was a world wide flood today. It would be hard for the hebrew god to endure with the remainder of the population. They would probably tell him where he could go stick his rainbow. And anyone who suggested otherwise would be thrown out of the ark.

I know, I know ... you can almost guess the apologetics that would follow a case as blatant as this. But for many people God's arse would have been well and truly kicked, and if logic ever catches on to the same degree as Christianity has in the past, then there may be a chance that it will be the dominant species.

In fact, wasn't it some historical error and insufficient appologetic that led most of us "out of the wilderness" in first place?

Awmte

If you're a rational human being, it should already have been disproved to your satisfaction. If, on the other hand, you are a dogmatic christian, the Bible will never be disproved. Any inconsistency between reality and the Bible wiil be taken as evidence of the fallibility of reality and not the Bible...