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Old 08-12-2007, 11:19 AM   #11
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"No chance of confusion here."? Jesus Ben, which "John" is it? "Mark's" John the Disciple, "John's" John the Disciple, some other John the Disciple, John the Presbyter, John the Elder, Dear John, John Deer, Little John, Big Bad John or John Icant Rememberwhohisfatherwas?
Same John and he was also John the Baptist. Very versatile he was in omniscience and don't forget, with 12 ousia's on board it cannot be any other way.
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"No chance of confusion here."? Jesus Ben, which "John" is it?
You are correct. I should have been more specific.

What I meant was no chance of confusion between John and Jesus.

I agree that the matter of which John is which is always potentially confusing.

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Let's not confuse the issue.

Against Heresies book 2.22 by Irenaeus dealt specifically with the age of Jesus when he suffered.

The heretics argued that Jesus suffered within 12 months of his baptism and that Jesus was about 30 years. Irenaeus claimed that Jesus did not suffer 12 months after his baptism and that Jesus was over 50 years old when he suffered.

This is the subtitle of BOOK 2.22: THE THIRTY AEONS ARE NOT TYPIFIED BY THE FACT THAT CHRIST WAS BAPTISED IN HIS THIRTIETH YEAR: HE DID NOT SUFFER IN THE TWELFTH MONTH AFTER HIS BAPTISM, BUT WAS MORE THAN FIFTY YEARS OLD WHEN HE DIED.

Trajan is not part of the confusion he is documented to have lived from Sept.18 53 to August 19 117. The confusion surrounds Irenaeus, Jesus, John, the apostles, the Elders, the disciples, the beloved disciple, the author of Matthew, the author of Luke, Mary Magdalene, the other Marys and Joseph of Arimathea.
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