Freethought & Rationalism Archive

sotto voce · 04-12-2012, 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dog-on

Quote:

Originally Posted by sotto voce

Quote:

Originally Posted by dog-on

No, you simply continue with your false dilemmas.

More circularity. Prove something. Anything.

Amazing.

Quote:

although irrelevant when it comes to positing a miracle as the explanation for any specific event.

More half-baked, ludicrous circularity.

To be ignored, evidently.

Atheism, :tombstone:

I have the distinct impression that you do not know what the term "circularity" actually means.

Can you prove that?

Jedi Mind Trick · 04-12-2012, 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sotto voce

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jedi Mind Trick

I prefer the upfront and mature way we humans let each other know of our existence... a cheerful "hello" and a firm handshake.

But a glass or two of convivial water turned wine would not be refused, either.

And you talk about circularity... how do you know the said water-to-wine event happened? Hmmmmm?

sotto voce · 04-12-2012, 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jedi Mind Trick

Quote:

Originally Posted by sotto voce

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jedi Mind Trick

I prefer the upfront and mature way we humans let each other know of our existence... a cheerful "hello" and a firm handshake.

But a glass or two of convivial water turned wine would not be refused, either.

And you talk about circularity... how do you know the said wine-to-water event happened? Hmmmmm?

Did I say that it happened?

Can it be shown that it did not?

dog-on · 04-12-2012, 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sotto voce

Quote:

Originally Posted by dog-on

I have the distinct impression that you do not know what the term "circularity" actually means.

Can you prove that?

Jedi Mind Trick · 04-12-2012, 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sotto voce

Can it be shown that it did not?

About as reliably as it can be shown that Lord Shiva didn't drink the poison of the sins of the world, thereby turning his throat blue. Do you believe Shiva did that?

dog-on · 04-12-2012, 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jedi Mind Trick

Quote:

Originally Posted by sotto voce

Can it be shown that it did not?

About as reliably as it can be shown that Lord Shiva didn't drink the poison of the sins of the world, thereby turning his throat blue. Do you believe Shiva did that?

Well damn! How else could you possibly explain a blue throat!

aa5874 · 04-12-2012, 05:58 AM

Again, people who believe miracles can happen must accept statements that are illogical. People who believe miracles can happen cannot determine the truth.

The claim that Jesus was FATHERED by a Holy Ghost of God MUST be accepted by Miracle believers as a Most Truthful statement--when it is a most MAJESTIC LIE.

The claim that Jesus resurrected Lazarus after he was dead for four days MUST be accepted by Miracle believers as Pristine History--a glorious historical event--when it is in fact total Fiction.

The claim that Jesus WALKED on water and Transfigured is TREASURED HISTORY by those who believe in Miracles when the events support FICTION.

People who believe in miracles must deny logical deductions to accept the miraculous.

sotto voce · 04-12-2012, 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jedi Mind Trick

Quote:

Originally Posted by sotto voce

Can it be shown that it did not?

About as reliably as it can be shown that Lord Shiva didn't drink the poison of the sins of the world

Is that just as credible?

What would be just as credible?

Quote:

Do you believe Shiva did that?

Can it be proved that he didn't?

Why do millions of sophisticated Westerners accept the supernatural when it comes to the Bible, but not otherwise?

dog-on · 04-12-2012, 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sotto voce

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jedi Mind Trick

About as reliably as it can be shown that Lord Shiva didn't drink the poison of the sins of the world

Is that just as credible?

What would be just as credible?

Quote:

Do you believe Shiva did that?

Can it be proved that he didn't?

Why do millions of sophisticated Westerners accept the supernatural when it comes to the Bible, but not otherwise?

Compartmentalization?

sotto voce · 04-12-2012, 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dog-on

Quote:

Originally Posted by sotto voce

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jedi Mind Trick

About as reliably as it can be shown that Lord Shiva didn't drink the poison of the sins of the world

Is that just as credible?

What would be just as credible?

Quote:

Do you believe Shiva did that?

Can it be proved that he didn't?

Why do millions of sophisticated Westerners accept the supernatural when it comes to the Bible, but not otherwise?

Compartmentalization?

If theists can be so unintelligent, why cannot atheists?

Thread Tools	Search this Thread
Show Printable Version	Search this Thread: Advanced Search

04-12-2012, 05:58 AM	#47
aa5874 Contributor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: the fringe of the caribbean Posts: 18,988	Again, people who believe miracles can happen must accept statements that are illogical. People who believe miracles can happen cannot determine the truth. The claim that Jesus was FATHERED by a Holy Ghost of God MUST be accepted by Miracle believers as a Most Truthful statement--when it is a most MAJESTIC LIE. The claim that Jesus resurrected Lazarus after he was dead for four days MUST be accepted by Miracle believers as Pristine History--a glorious historical event--when it is in fact total Fiction. The claim that Jesus WALKED on water and Transfigured is TREASURED HISTORY by those who believe in Miracles when the events support FICTION. People who believe in miracles must deny logical deductions to accept the miraculous.

Freethought & Rationalism Archive

The archives are read only.