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Chili · 12-06-2005, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by John A. Broussard

Right. I wasn't talking about Noah's time. I was talking about the time when that segment of the bible was written. Big difference.

Back at the time of Noah, there was no written Hebrew language.

Of course, I'm just going by the hypothetical dates of the flood and assuming (but solely for argument) that Noah actually existed.

Hello John, Noah's time is now and we are the ark builders in our naos. That's us, wholly and truly and we need clean animals on the other side or we'll be shovelling shit forever. The clean animals are our ideas wherein we have come full circle, now seen eidetically throught the eidos where truth meets reality. I think Jesus upped the anti to 12 whom he called apostels and by golly, things don't go very well with an apostle short when we get to the other side. Just look around and see for yourself or let MacBeth tell you why this is so.

Chili · 12-06-2005, 10:30 PM

Sorry, I just wanted to help John out of his confusion.

BTW, Advent is our flood. Same thing, different words.

Thomas II · 12-07-2005, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Chili

Hello John, Noah's time is now and we are the ark builders in our naos. That's us, wholly and truly and we need clean animals on the other side or we'll be shovelling shit forever. The clean animals are our ideas wherein we have come full circle, now seen eidetically throught the eidos where truth meets reality. I think Jesus upped the anti to 12 whom he called apostels and by golly, things don't go very well with an apostle short when we get to the other side. Just look around and see for yourself or let MacBeth tell you why this is so.

For John and Chili, for reference here is a good source of mythological stories about "the flood"
www.talkorigins.org/faqs/flood-myths.html

and I would like to share this one too:
www.greatdreams.com/end_time_flood.htm

Thomas II · 12-07-2005, 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Chili

Sorry, I just wanted to help John out of his confusion.

BTW, Advent is our flood. Same thing, different words.

Advent like in the flood taking place with the BIRTH of Jesus,as the "braking of the water", preliminary to the birth of the Christ, would herald the commencement of the emanation of grace,which, like a flood, would sweep through our consciousness?:angel:

Chili · 12-07-2005, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomas II

Advent like in the flood taking place with the BIRTH of Jesus,as the "braking of the water", preliminary to the birth of the Christ, would herald the commencement of the emanation of grace,which, like a flood, would sweep through our consciousness?:angel:

Yes, kind of. Let's first say that there was no baby and I say this to enter your train of thought. There was no baby, period, but there is a renewal of our mind which is preceded by the flood. I see it more like a tempest that is followed the emanating grace through our mind that you are talking about. Nobody has a copyright on this and is our most basic human right in and throughout the entire world.

Mythology speaks on this and religion tries to enhance this event with regard to the depth of penetration from where insight is gained to benefit first the person, the civilization next and later and the world at large. They do this well but some do it better than others. It is actually true that the complexity of a civiliztion is related to the complexitey of the mythology (but these are evil words around here).

Let's call it meno-pauze wherein man becomes eternal (meno = "I remain" as in I become eternal) and the flood is just prior to this event which can be a life changing event. The flood is descriptive of the time just prior to this wherein our faculty of reason must be obscured so this event can take place (advent is called "involutional melancholia"). Notice that we built the ark in our naos (innermost being) from where it must keep our boat afloat to get to the other side of life which is our very own soul where intuit knowledge is stored for up to One Thousand Years. The ark, then, lands us right smack in the middle of this with the birth of Christ, so to speak.

It is our cocoon stage, we can say, where darkness prevails as if the sun stopped to grant more power for our true idenity to become awakened in our conscious mind. Hence, it is refered to as rebirth, wherein we become the reincarnate son of man instead of the old worn out ego idenity that was obscured so this event can take place in our conscious mind.

The color is purple (between black and red) which is right at the bottom of the yin-yang change from black to white.

Weltall · 12-07-2005, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Chili

The color is purple (between black and red) which is right at the bottom of the yin-yang change from black to white.

May I introduce you to a little book called 'The Electromagnetic Spectrum for Dummies'?

Chili · 12-07-2005, 03:56 PM

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May I introduce you to a little book called 'The Electromagnetic Spectrum for Dummies'?

Yes but this a mythology man. Boththe Rich man and Lazarus were dressed in purple to indicate their Advent period. One of them found it, the other did not.

Chili · 12-07-2005, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomas II

For John and Chili, for reference here is a good source of mythological stories about "the flood"
www.talkorigins.org/faqs/flood-myths.html

and I would like to share this one too:
www.greatdreams.com/end_time_flood.htm

A bunch of these are creation stories. Water is intuition or knowledge retained from generation to generation while blood is our faculty of reason that we stand on and go by in our daily lives . . . until we can walk on water and go by our intuit knowledge. Hence the bleeding of blood and water when the ego was pierced = death to the faculty of reason including intuition which has been converted into reason prior to crucifixion.

Thomas II · 12-07-2005, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Chili

Yes, kind of. Let's first say that there was no baby and I say this to enter your train of thought. There was no baby, period, but there is a renewal of our mind which is preceded by the flood. I see it more like a tempest that is followed the emanating grace through our mind that you are talking about. Nobody has a copyright on this and is our most basic human right in and throughout the entire world.

Mythology speaks on this and religion tries to enhance this event with regard to the depth of penetration from where insight is gained to benefit first the person, the civilization next and later and the world at large. They do this well but some do it better than others. It is actually true that the complexity of a civiliztion is related to the complexitey of the mythology (but these are evil words around here).

Let's call it meno-pauze wherein man becomes eternal (meno = "I remain" as in I become eternal) and the flood is just prior to this event which can be a life changing event. The flood is descriptive of the time just prior to this wherein our faculty of reason must be obscured so this event can take place (advent is called "involutional melancholia"). Notice that we built the ark in our naos (innermost being) from where it must keep our boat afloat to get to the other side of life which is our very own soul where intuit knowledge is stored for up to One Thousand Years. The ark, then, lands us right smack in the middle of this with the birth of Christ, so to speak.

It is our cocoon stage, we can say, where darkness prevails as if the sun stopped to grant more power for our true idenity to become awakened in our conscious mind. Hence, it is refered to as rebirth, wherein we become the reincarnate son of man instead of the old worn out ego idenity that was obscured so this event can take place in our conscious mind.

The color is purple (between black and red) which is right at the bottom of the yin-yang change from black to white.

Genesis 1-2 "And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters..."

Like a storm...electrical...the tempest...jumpstarting the new begining...
The ego (identity), previously established in darkness, the hidden subconscious, is transformed into a conscious being of Light...The color purple,related to the sahasrara, the highest chakra...And don't we go through a transformation of animals as we develop within the waters of the plascenta? Aren't WE the Ark? And then you say "for one thousand years"...as the lotus opening in our consciousness has 1000 petals...

Thomas II · 12-07-2005, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Chili

A bunch of these are creation stories. Water is intuition or knowledge retained from generation to generation while blood is our faculty of reason that we stand on and go by in our daily lives . . . until we can walk on water and go by our intuit knowledge. Hence the bleeding of blood and water when the ego was pierced = death to the faculty of reason including intuition which has been converted into reason prior to crucifixion.

See, THAT is the death of the Buddha we were talking about the other day!
Why death to it? Because it is not a source of TRUTH but of imaginary reflections...imaginary as in "a reflection" of the REAL thing, just like a mirror's image is not the real thing...In order to focus on the real thing one has to
"kill" the focus one has on the reflected image...

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Chili Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Alberta Posts: 11,885	Sorry, I just wanted to help John out of his confusion. BTW, Advent is our flood. Same thing, different words.

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