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Jeffrey Formosa · 01-01-2004, 04:37 AM

I found a way to convert Christians into Atheists but before I talk about you need to know this 1st.

There are two type of Christians, Faith-Christians and Sinless-Christians.

Faith-Christians believe that if you believe in god and Jesus and pray and go to church you will get into heaven but if you read the bible fully good you would know this is wrong.

Sinless-Christians believe that you must not sin at all and believe in god and Jesus and pray and go to church to get into heaven and if you read the bible fully you would know that it is true.

Now I will tell you how to turn a Faith-Christian into a Atheist, you have to get the Faith-Christian to talk to a Sinless-Christian or go to a Sinless-Christian's forum or to a Sinless-Christian's site, after the Faith-Christian learns that his beliefs on how to get into heaven are wrong and that he mustn't sin he will then most likey turn into a Atheist.

This is how I became a Atheist.

Gurdur · 01-01-2004, 05:00 AM

I think that idea is turning me into a Buddhist. Or maybe a Shintoist.
I've always had a yen for Shinto.

01-01-2004, 06:00 AM

Nono Jeffrey. It is easy to be a sinless Christian if one has been set free from the law. No law equals no sin and therefore all NT people should be free from the law . . . but perhaps not Christians just yet.

Jeffrey Formosa · 01-01-2004, 06:54 AM

{Insult deleted}, I am living proof that this weapon works.

variant 13 · 01-01-2004, 07:13 AM

Well Jeff you've found nothing much here:

Christian/religious beliefs are not grounded in logic.

What christians live without sin?

None, because they believe that humans are born with sin (the whole adam and the apple thing). They believe that accepting jesus and all the rest of that stuff they can be saved.

copiae · 01-01-2004, 07:14 AM

... yes, you are living proof that the ... weapon... worked on you.

Jeffrey Formosa · 01-01-2004, 07:16 AM

I meant by Sinless-Christians as people who don't sin so they can get into heaven which the bible say's is true. Faith-Christians just think that belief in god and Jesus gets you in heaven and Faith-Christians will lose there belief when they know that the bible says there going to hell. {Insult deleted}

variant 13 · 01-01-2004, 07:45 AM

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Christians believe that everyone, that is everyone is born with sin, so just not sinning after that is not enough.

Anyway according to the bible (taken at face value) pretty much everything is a sin.

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Faith-Christians just think that belief in god and Jesus gets you in heaven and Faith-Christians will lose there belief when they know that the bible says there going to hell.

No, simply not true, they will say that their god will forgive them or some such thing. Remember when it comes to religion logic goes out the window.

Jeffrey Formosa · 01-01-2004, 07:49 AM

Well why didn't I think "my god will forgive me".

variant 13 · 01-01-2004, 08:00 AM

I don't know! It's your head.

But to say this is what happened to me, it will happen to everyone is, is... well wrong.

Everyone will react in their own way to any given situation.

01-01-2004, 04:37 AM	#1
Jeffrey Formosa Banned Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 261	Behold my all mighty anti-Christian weapon I found a way to convert Christians into Atheists but before I talk about you need to know this 1st. There are two type of Christians, Faith-Christians and Sinless-Christians. Faith-Christians believe that if you believe in god and Jesus and pray and go to church you will get into heaven but if you read the bible fully good you would know this is wrong. Sinless-Christians believe that you must not sin at all and believe in god and Jesus and pray and go to church to get into heaven and if you read the bible fully you would know that it is true. Now I will tell you how to turn a Faith-Christian into a Atheist, you have to get the Faith-Christian to talk to a Sinless-Christian or go to a Sinless-Christian's forum or to a Sinless-Christian's site, after the Faith-Christian learns that his beliefs on how to get into heaven are wrong and that he mustn't sin he will then most likey turn into a Atheist. This is how I became a Atheist.

01-01-2004, 06:00 AM	#3
Amos Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Behold my all mighty anti-Christian weapon Nono Jeffrey. It is easy to be a sinless Christian if one has been set free from the law. No law equals no sin and therefore all NT people should be free from the law . . . but perhaps not Christians just yet.

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01-01-2004, 05:00 AM	#2
Gurdur Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Buggered if I know Posts: 12,410	I think that idea is turning me into a Buddhist. Or maybe a Shintoist. I've always had a yen for Shinto.

01-01-2004, 06:54 AM	#4
Jeffrey Formosa Banned Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 261	{Insult deleted}, I am living proof that this weapon works.

01-01-2004, 07:13 AM	#5
variant 13 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: no where, uk Posts: 4,677	Well Jeff you've found nothing much here: Christian/religious beliefs are not grounded in logic. What christians live without sin? None, because they believe that humans are born with sin (the whole adam and the apple thing). They believe that accepting jesus and all the rest of that stuff they can be saved.

01-01-2004, 07:14 AM	#6
copiae Regular Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 288	... yes, you are living proof that the ... weapon... worked on you.

01-01-2004, 07:16 AM	#7
Jeffrey Formosa Banned Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 261	I meant by Sinless-Christians as people who don't sin so they can get into heaven which the bible say's is true. Faith-Christians just think that belief in god and Jesus gets you in heaven and Faith-Christians will lose there belief when they know that the bible says there going to hell. {Insult deleted}

01-01-2004, 07:49 AM	#9
Jeffrey Formosa Banned Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 261	Well why didn't I think "my god will forgive me".

01-01-2004, 08:00 AM	#10
variant 13 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: no where, uk Posts: 4,677	I don't know! It's your head. But to say this is what happened to me, it will happen to everyone is, is... well wrong. Everyone will react in their own way to any given situation.

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