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manimal2878 · 07-28-2005, 06:28 PM

ok i never see any women with head covered in church except maybe catholic nuns

how is it that this rule can be ignored?

it is right there with premarital sex and all that other tripe.

if the rule was meant fior the time so were the fornication and marriage rules, if the fornication and marriage rules christian women should cover there heads. when praying.

Boomeister · 07-28-2005, 06:31 PM

Haven't you figured it out yet? It's called "picking and choosing" what one wants to believe. Many people will come up with rationalizations for why they pick and choose, but that's what they are doing.

Boomeister

manimal2878 · 07-28-2005, 06:40 PM

yes i realize that

but i just don't see how they can apoligize their way around this one.

it's pretty much black and white I don't really see the room for wiiggleing on this one.

But i am sure somebody will show me wrong

Coragyps · 07-28-2005, 07:10 PM

When I was a kid - 45 years ago or so - almost all women wore hats and many veils to church. And that was a Presbyterian church, one of the progressive ones. The custom may have been dying by then, though, and by 1967 (??) women were not only abandoning hats and veils but actually wearing pantsuits not only out in public but to church as well. My mother was disturbed by this until she started wearing pants, too.....

Splarnst · 07-28-2005, 08:02 PM

I've seen a few women in Catholic churches with headpieces, especially at the traditional Latin Mass. It's an almost dead practice otherwise.

manimal2878 · 07-28-2005, 08:11 PM

yet the bible verse is still there.

what is there excuse not to follow it?

Come on fundies step up and answer.

I don't want to have to go to 123 christians and be told i'm going to hell for my blasphemous questions.

If you can excuse this rule as archaic and cultural then ALL of them can be excused in the same manner.

Clivedurdle · 07-29-2005, 12:19 AM

Clothes .

Joan of Bark · 07-29-2005, 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boomeister

Haven't you figured it out yet? It's called "picking and choosing" what one wants to believe. Many people will come up with rationalizations for why they pick and choose, but that's what they are doing.

Boomeister

My sentiments exactly. Who says you can't summarize Biblical beliefs in less than 25 words?

Jackalope · 07-29-2005, 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Clivedurdle

Clothes .

from that site:

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The loin- or waste-cloth ('ézôr) reaching from the waste to the knee was a common dress during the Bronze II and III ages,

The original Freudian Slip? :devil3:

Take what's written there with a grain of salt. The "shirt" they're talking about is more commonly called a T-tunic, cut as either one or two pieces, no seperate sleeves. Definitely not the inset sleeves seen in a modern shirt.

Bwhaha and this bit at the end sort of illustrates how suggestable some people are:

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A few months ago I let my young son try on an old East German uniform I acquired in Berlin before unification. He was instantly transformed into a "soldier", strutting around as soldiers do. An international traveler remarked how when he wore the traditional Japanese yukata (the man's equivalent of a kimono) he found himself behaving as the Japanese do. When he was back in his suit, he found himself behaving as Europeans do. Put someone in the clothes of 19th century courtiers and they behave like 19th century courtiers.

Clothes do modify our behavior and we should never forget that. Not only are clothes expressions of our soul, but they affect our souls too. People who wear expensive clothes act "rich", and those who wear rags act "poor". When decent people put on soldiers' uniforms, they find themselves doing things they would never do in civilian attire. So stringently avoid the clothes of the "anticulture" as promoted by rock groups and listless youth, because your spirit will be changed by them. Don't wear suits because business men wear them -- the Christ's assembly is not a business organization (though many Churches are).

If a change of clothes is all it takes to make one act differently, I'd say one has some identity problems to begin with.

And if you read the whole thing through, you'll notice they still managed to avoid the issue of "should women cover their heads in church?"

manimal2878 · 07-29-2005, 12:18 PM

http://www.christianforums.com/t1916...l#post17314227

Let the apoligies and excuses begin....

07-28-2005, 06:28 PM	#1
manimal2878 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 72	1 corinthians woman wearing veils when praying ok i never see any women with head covered in church except maybe catholic nuns how is it that this rule can be ignored? it is right there with premarital sex and all that other tripe. if the rule was meant fior the time so were the fornication and marriage rules, if the fornication and marriage rules christian women should cover there heads. when praying.

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07-28-2005, 06:31 PM	#2
Boomeister Regular Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: The Big State in the South Posts: 448	Haven't you figured it out yet? It's called "picking and choosing" what one wants to believe. Many people will come up with rationalizations for why they pick and choose, but that's what they are doing. Boomeister

07-28-2005, 06:40 PM	#3
manimal2878 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 72	yes i realize that but i just don't see how they can apoligize their way around this one. it's pretty much black and white I don't really see the room for wiiggleing on this one. But i am sure somebody will show me wrong

07-28-2005, 07:10 PM	#4
Coragyps Veteran Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Snyder,Texas,USA Posts: 4,411	When I was a kid - 45 years ago or so - almost all women wore hats and many veils to church. And that was a Presbyterian church, one of the progressive ones. The custom may have been dying by then, though, and by 1967 (??) women were not only abandoning hats and veils but actually wearing pantsuits not only out in public but to church as well. My mother was disturbed by this until she started wearing pants, too.....

07-28-2005, 08:02 PM	#5
Splarnst Contributor Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Jacksonville, Florida Posts: 13,161	I've seen a few women in Catholic churches with headpieces, especially at the traditional Latin Mass. It's an almost dead practice otherwise.

07-28-2005, 08:11 PM	#6
manimal2878 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 72	yet the bible verse is still there. what is there excuse not to follow it? Come on fundies step up and answer. I don't want to have to go to 123 christians and be told i'm going to hell for my blasphemous questions. If you can excuse this rule as archaic and cultural then ALL of them can be excused in the same manner.

07-29-2005, 12:19 AM	#7
Clivedurdle Contributor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: London UK Posts: 16,024	Clothes .

07-29-2005, 12:18 PM	#10
manimal2878 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 72	http://www.christianforums.com/t1916...l#post17314227 Let the apoligies and excuses begin....

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