Magdlyn

Do we have a forum called Wild Speculation? No? Then how about Freethought Humor and Jokes?

Toto

I'm afraid it's called Elsewhere.

Iacchus

Was it something I said?

By the way, it is a critique of those who practice the Bible. If in fact there's any legitimacy to what the Bible says about the need to be weary of those who profess it ... It's just too bad we have to judge the Bible by all the loudmouths if you will who, tend to preach it the most.

Toto

Don't take it personally.

If your question had brought out some (at least semi-) scholarly discussion, it might have been okay.

Iacchus

Yeah, I was pretty much thinking the same thing ...

Paradox

In the Greek:

"Who is called the devil and Satan" adds up to 2197, which is 13 x 13 x 13
(From Revelation 12)
13 = rebellion.

"Jesus of Nazareth" also adds up to 2197 - 13 x 13 x 13 !
(Gospel of John)

highpreistess

This was a scholarly debate, when refering to Hitler, I should have said
that there were 40,000 tibetan monks in Germany at the end of the war,
hitler had these aryans tranported to Germany, to teach him how to
traverse the bardo state and come back a perfect aryan......this is
recorded history. The historians might not of figured out why the monks
were in Germany, but they could report that they were indeed there.

The sarcophagus of Iknaton was returned to Egypt from Munich only a
year ago, this was also reported news.

As for channeling, I can easily commune with Aiwass, and consider myself
a master therion, of the calibre of Crowley. The number of the beast
is the number of a man. All men. no one is excluded in this. Now read
it again as you as the main character, has a different feel doesn't it???


And heres a few more scholary tidbits for all of you who are educated,
the red dragon of revelations is this bloodline that has been perpetuated
since Cain raped Abel. Since the nephilim took on the flesh and began
this bloodline. This bloodline is considered sacred, divine, and is the best
kept secret (sod) on earth. However those who knew, called this bloodline
Satan,and fought against the progeny of the Nephilim, the giants, and it is why
David slew all of the giants, and then Solomon set his seal, around stonehenge which represents the womb of the woman, the only place to
receive the gift of life, which is the breath of life. But the nephilim were
cut off from entering this the first reality, and now they sit and watch,
as the remnants of this bloodline, who continually form secret societies,
are cut off from the face of the earth. God says, I shall cut the ammonite
from off the face of the earth. He's wiping them all out. There will be no
more specific men, practicing the secret of the blood, which is the illegal
intercourse brought about by the fallen angels and their leader Azazel.
Satan has come down to us, knowing he has but a short time......

side note: 75% of the senate and presidency are related by blood......

Iacchus

Except that the number specifically referred to is 666. So, if this is supposed to represent the False Prophet, then shouldn't it also represent Jesus, except in the opposite sense perhaps?

By the way, what system are you using to derive your number values? Or, can you tell me how does it works?

Paradox

The number system used is the Greek system. Alpha = 1, Beta = 2, Gamma = 3 etc. It's the same system that shows the name of Jesus being "888" (IESOUS - Greek for Jesus) that is often referred to in Christian numerology.
The Bible is full of deliberately engineered gematria to supposedly provide extra hidden knowledge about various issues.

I once wrote an application that uses both Greek and Hebrew to work out the numerical value of words. You can get it here:http://www.ezkeel.com/Downloads/Chalculator.zip

Mageth

Possibly nothing.

For one, there's a strong possibility, based on the examination of ancient texts, that Rev. originally said "616", which was later miscopied as "666".