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The Admiral · 08-14-2005, 05:02 PM

I had it then I lost it and can't tell where to find it. Can some one tell me the name of the German author who has written or is writing a multi-volume tome entitled,"The Criminal History of the Catholic Church" or something near that?

The Admiral

Toto · 08-14-2005, 05:44 PM

Do you mean Christianity's Criminal History by Karlheinz Deschner?

The Admiral · 08-14-2005, 06:05 PM

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Do you mean Christianity's Criminal History by Karlheinz Deschner?

Toto
Yes, thank you. I can't read German and even if the work were published in English I might not live long enough to read it, but I would try.

I am currently re-reading Joseph Wheeless's "Forgery in Christianity". Are you familiar with Wheeless's books, and if so, what is your opinion of them?

The Admiral

Toto · 08-14-2005, 06:34 PM

Wheless's Forgery in Christianity is online in the SecWeb Library and in a nicer format here.

I have to admit that I haven't read through the entire work. It is politically incorrect now to speak about Christian "forgery" if you want to carry on a dialogue with Christians. And I suspect that there are aspects of the work that are out of date. But perhaps I should read it more carefully.

The Admiral · 08-15-2005, 05:18 AM

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Wheless's Forgery in Christianity is online in the SecWeb Library and in a nicer format here.

I have to admit that I haven't read through the entire work. It is politically incorrect now to speak about Christian "forgery" if you want to carry on a dialogue with Christians. And I suspect that there are aspects of the work that are out of date. But perhaps I should read it more carefully.

Yes, it is a bit dated. There are probably later books that are more readable. Wheeless was a lawyer first and an author second. His previous book, "Is it God's word" is, I think, better. These books were hard to find for many years but are now readily available.

The Admiral

Clivedurdle · 08-15-2005, 06:32 AM

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politically incorrect

Sorry?

Why?

Who says? Isn't IIDB by definition politically incorrect then?

jonesg · 08-15-2005, 09:30 AM

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I had it then I lost it and can't tell where to find it. Can some one tell me the name of the German author who has written or is writing a multi-volume tome entitled,"The Criminal History of the Catholic Church" or something near that?

The Admiral

Try Martin Luther.

Toto · 08-15-2005, 11:09 AM

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politically incorrect

Sorry?

Why?

Who says? Isn't IIDB by definition politically incorrect then?

I spoke ironically. IIDB is probably classified as "religiously incorrect" by Bill Maher's definition. Too bad one of us couldn't have gotten on his show instead of Ann Coulter.

andrewcriddle · 08-15-2005, 12:49 PM

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Wheless's Forgery in Christianity is online in the SecWeb Library and in a nicer format here.

I have to admit that I haven't read through the entire work. It is politically incorrect now to speak about Christian "forgery" if you want to carry on a dialogue with Christians. And I suspect that there are aspects of the work that are out of date. But perhaps I should read it more carefully.

There is a critical examination of Wheless Here (to which I made a minor contribution)

Andrew Criddle

Toto · 08-15-2005, 01:10 PM

Wheless and Roger Pearse's page were discussed here and here.

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Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	Wheless's Forgery in Christianity is online in the SecWeb Library and in a nicer format here. I have to admit that I haven't read through the entire work. It is politically incorrect now to speak about Christian "forgery" if you want to carry on a dialogue with Christians. And I suspect that there are aspects of the work that are out of date. But perhaps I should read it more carefully.

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Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	Wheless and Roger Pearse's page were discussed here and here.

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