Originally Posted by Queen of Swords

Just as almost everything you've been claiming so far is your opinion.

Originally Posted by Queen of Swords

One reference to scripture from me was "alot" for you, was it? My, what little tolerance you seem to have for your own book.

Originally Posted by Queen of Swords

"Sorry to burst your bubble", "You are not as cute as you think you are" - did you think you were being nice or polite here? Sorry to disillusion you, if that was the case.

Originally Posted by Queen of Swords

Likewise, I don't think you could know me enough to claim what I will do in the afterlife, assuming that your god exists. See how it works?

Originally Posted by Queen of Swords

So, for anyone else who wants to tackle the question Jesus Loves You cannot or will not answer - why is it important to the christian god that I kneel before him? Does it excite him in some way?

Originally Posted by Queen of Swords

I believe you might want to read the bible again, it plainly says, "Be ye therefore perfect as your father in heaven is perfect". Can't get around that.

Originally Posted by Queen of Swords

The cutting and pasting amounted to little but regurgitation of bible verses, and it only serves to show me that fundamentalist christianity breeds closed-mindedness. I hope that was your intention.

Originally Posted by JesusLovesYou

When you become God, then you can tell me who I do and do not care for, but I don't believe you are there yet.

Originally Posted by JesusLovesYou

Boy does the following scriptures spell out what is happening today to a tee.

Romans 1:16-32
16For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
17For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
18For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
19Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
20For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
21Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Originally Posted by JesusLovesYou

I put some scriptures of God's love down because things seemed a little onesided, and knew you would want it to be balanced.

Originally Posted by fairyhedgehog

But to return to the original post. CS Lewis was a brilliant writer, especially of fiction. His forte was literature not logic and in my view this shows in his attempts at writing Christian apologetics. However, his writing is so persuasive that it is easy to be lulled into accepting his work at face value - and he presents his theories as irrefutable logic. In reality of course it is the usual Christian appeal to the emotions and others have already debunked the 'trilemma' very convincingly in this thread.

Originally Posted by RGD

Next time, perhaps you should read the posts made to you more carefully. I was not referring to the idea that you might not care about us, but rather the fact that you give the impression that you do not care about what we say. Your mind already being made up, there is no point in actually pointing out any of the logical or historical flaws in Christianity, or the negative affect it has had on mankind. Your mind would simply reject any such information without examining it.

Originally Posted by RGD

Hence - a drive by who doesn't care what we have to say. Don't be embarrassed, we get lots and lots and lots of them.

Originally Posted by RGD

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Originally Posted by RGD

OK, good for you. Curiosity is a virtue.

Originally Posted by RGD

And why would quoting an inaccurate, unsubstantiated and highly contenious text make things balanced? That makes no sense.

Consider: if I were to visit some Christian forum and post that "Christ was both liar and lunatic; that he was probably a moronic dupe of gullible Roman and Jewish politicians; and that the entire 'resurrection' business has no more support than Mohammed's splitting the moon", would you consider that I had made things balanced?

Originally Posted by RGD

And that's his issue to deal with. If he does, he appears to have done very little about it.

Originally Posted by funinspace

Today no more so than a 1,500 years ago, 2,000 years ago 2,500 years ago, one description of humanity. But not much of a point to reality, this quote of yours.

Originally Posted by vsop44

Jesus is a myth .

The jesus story as we know it ,was not created all at once or by only 1 person ; No guy names Mark, Matthew, Luke or John sat down one day late in the first century and started to write the gospels ; It developped bit by bit , adding and substracting according to the mood of the writer and that of the scribes ( some of the gospels in the 2nd and 3rd century had several versions , add the errors in tranlations and the hand of people with a political agenda ) it became a story distorted and confused . If you add the facts that no historian of the era recorded a single event of Jesus 'life so there is absolutely no proof that Jesus existed except for some biaised writings which are full of contradictions .