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Boro Nut · 12-17-2006, 12:04 PM

So it turns out that JP Turkel does have some real testimonials after all. I always thought he was just a stooge paid by Farell Till to bend over and take it up the jacksie.

1998 Florida Department of Corrections Awards

Fascinating. "Control of theft rate in library materials". Highly illuminating. I wonder how long it took him to work that one out?
Stage 1 - Stop lending books to convicted felons.
Stage 2 - Collect congressional medal of honour.
That was easy. Can I have a medal too?

I bet he couldn't believe he'd risen to such lofty heights as the Davis Productivity Award winner. Especially in 1998, which I understand was a particularly strong year for control of theft rates in library materials proposals, when he was up against no lesser person than the legendary Robert Holding. Certainly not after believing he'd gone and blown his college eduction on a simple slip of the hand by mistakenly ticking library studies on his degree enrolment form.

Boro Nut

Steven Carr · 12-17-2006, 12:49 PM

This thread will be moved.

But wasn't reducing theft of library materials a very amusing episode of Porridge?

Did Turkel arrange for the paint to be stolen so he wouldn't have to redecorate the library? 'Bunch of criminals in here, Mr. McKay'

Library studies is an important subject though. It is very important to know how to master the flow of information coming through on a variety of topics, categorising and codifying the various learned journals into their appropriate fields of knowledge, sifting the merits of one paper against another for deciding which journal gets that all-important 'must read' recommendation.

How else could a prison library function optimally, unless the prisoners are kept up to date on whether 'Journal of Medical Biochemistry' is now more widely recognised in its field than 'Journal of Biochemical Medicine'?

Toto · 12-17-2006, 01:16 PM

Yes, this thread has nothing to do with BCH except for some gossip about a prominent apologist, who is not a member here as far as we know.

I will take suggestions on the proper forum.

John Kesler · 12-17-2006, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Toto

...a prominent apologist, who is not a member here as far as we know.

Turkel has stated why he won't participate at forums like IIDB:

Quote:

I'll say it again: I don't do forums with skeptics. Skeptical forums are filled with "master debaters" who think that polemic alone counts as argument and that stacking questions atop questions in order to overwhelm their opponent (who, unlike them, having a life to lead, does not have the time or the resources to provide every answer within the expected timeframe, i.e., instantly) equates with victory.

So please, forum members, less polemic and more substance.

Boro Nut · 12-17-2006, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Steven Carr

Library studies is an important subject though.

I defer to your greater knowledge or the subject Steven. I did think to seek a more considered opinion before posting, but found the bible strangely silent on the matter.

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How else could a prison library function optimally, ...

As any inmate is more than willing to relate, a well run prison library functions most optimally when it is liberally stocked with books of a sufficiently high quality that they can be both readily rolled into spliffs and not smudge ink on one's buttocks. Solubility is obviously someone else's problem.

Boro Nut

Boro Nut · 12-17-2006, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Toto

I will take suggestions on the proper forum.

Be fair. I looked high and low for the 'Pointless Awards' forum, to no avail. So I plumped for the most pointless discussion forum instead.

Boro Nut

Toto · 12-17-2006, 08:50 PM

OK, ~E~ it is.

Johnny Skeptic · 12-18-2006, 05:29 AM

James Holding is a liar. The real reason why he won't come to the IIDB is because of the excellent competition here, and because the moderators will not be on his side like they are at the Theology Web. I used to debate at the Theology Web until a computer hacker prevented me from going there. He could only have accomplished that with the Theology Web's help. I was not banned by the administrators at the Theology Web, although I was previously banned (not for poor conduct) and reinstated because I had not gotten 10 moderator's warnings within the specified amount of time. I could use another computer that I have, and use another name, but I get enough competition here at the IIDB.

12-17-2006, 12:04 PM	#1
Boro Nut Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Middlesbrough, England Posts: 3,909	Turkel's Medal So it turns out that JP Turkel does have some real testimonials after all. I always thought he was just a stooge paid by Farell Till to bend over and take it up the jacksie. 1998 Florida Department of Corrections Awards Fascinating. "Control of theft rate in library materials". Highly illuminating. I wonder how long it took him to work that one out? Stage 1 - Stop lending books to convicted felons. Stage 2 - Collect congressional medal of honour. That was easy. Can I have a medal too? I bet he couldn't believe he'd risen to such lofty heights as the Davis Productivity Award winner. Especially in 1998, which I understand was a particularly strong year for control of theft rates in library materials proposals, when he was up against no lesser person than the legendary Robert Holding. Certainly not after believing he'd gone and blown his college eduction on a simple slip of the hand by mistakenly ticking library studies on his degree enrolment form. Boro Nut

12-18-2006, 05:29 AM	#8
Johnny Skeptic Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 19,796	Turkel's Medal James Holding is a liar. The real reason why he won't come to the IIDB is because of the excellent competition here, and because the moderators will not be on his side like they are at the Theology Web. I used to debate at the Theology Web until a computer hacker prevented me from going there. He could only have accomplished that with the Theology Web's help. I was not banned by the administrators at the Theology Web, although I was previously banned (not for poor conduct) and reinstated because I had not gotten 10 moderator's warnings within the specified amount of time. I could use another computer that I have, and use another name, but I get enough competition here at the IIDB.

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12-17-2006, 12:49 PM	#2
Steven Carr Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: England Posts: 5,629	This thread will be moved. But wasn't reducing theft of library materials a very amusing episode of Porridge? Did Turkel arrange for the paint to be stolen so he wouldn't have to redecorate the library? 'Bunch of criminals in here, Mr. McKay' Library studies is an important subject though. It is very important to know how to master the flow of information coming through on a variety of topics, categorising and codifying the various learned journals into their appropriate fields of knowledge, sifting the merits of one paper against another for deciding which journal gets that all-important 'must read' recommendation. How else could a prison library function optimally, unless the prisoners are kept up to date on whether 'Journal of Medical Biochemistry' is now more widely recognised in its field than 'Journal of Biochemical Medicine'?

12-17-2006, 01:16 PM	#3
Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	Yes, this thread has nothing to do with BCH except for some gossip about a prominent apologist, who is not a member here as far as we know. I will take suggestions on the proper forum.

12-17-2006, 08:50 PM	#7
Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	OK, ~E~ it is.

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