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Old 02-23-2008, 12:16 PM   #1
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The Fourth Church Council of Carthage prohibits to all, including its bishops, the study of Gentile books. Porphyrius, bishop of Gaza, demolishes almost all the Pagan Temples of his city (except nine of them that remain active).

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With a new edict (13th July) Emperor Flavius Arcadius orders all remaining Temples, mainly in the countryside, to be immediately demolished: «Si qua in agris templa sunt, sine turba ac tumultu diruantur. His enim deiectis atque sublatis omnis superstitioni materia consumetur»

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Bishop Nicetas destroys the Oracle of God Dionysus in Vesai and baptises all the Gentiles of this area.

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The christian mob of Carthage lynches Gentiles and destroys Temples and "idols"
Might a certain alleged parody being discussed here be slightly later?

And why all this focus on the alleged poor xians being persecuted when xianity in the fourth century destroyed the foundations of a thousand years of civilisation?

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On 8th November, the Emperor Theodosius outlaws all non-christian rituals and names them "superstitions of the Gentiles" (“gentilicia superstitio”). New full scale persecutions against the Gentiles. The Mysteries of Samothrace are ended and priests slaughtered. In Cyprus the local bishop, "Saints" Epiphanius and Tychon destroy almost all the Temples of the island and exterminate thousands of Gentiles. The local Mysteries of Goddess Aphrodite are ended. Theodosius' edict declares: "the ones that won't obey pater Epiphanius have no right to keep living on the island". The Gentiles revolt against the Emperor and the Church in Petra, Aeropolis, Rafia, Gaza, Baalbek and other cities of the Middle East.
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Default PROJECT: Checking the 4th century citations of Vlasis Rassias

We have a coin spinning heads over tails over heads over ...
The coin has two sides, just like history.
We have been spoon-fed the christian history of the fourth century.
The pagan account in only now resurfacing.
A true historian wants to know both sides.

An earlier attempt at checking Vlasis' citations one by one
failed due to a breakdown in communications between the
participants. Emotional baggage was too much for some.

Do you want to start at the beginning again?

I think that many of his citations stem from the
codex theodosianus. But this is just a gut feeling.

I am happy to do the yards here, from the beginning
if any others want to also do these same yards.

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Theodosius IRoman emperor byname Theodosius The Great, in full Flavius Theodosius


born Jan. 11, AD 347, Cauca [Coca], Gallaecia died Jan. 17, 395, Mediolanum [Milan]

Theodosius I, Roman emperor of the East (379–392) and then sole emperor of both East and West (392–395), who, in vigorous suppression of paganism and Arianism, established the creed of the Council of Nicaea (325) as the universal norm for Christian orthodoxy and directed the convening of the second general council at Constantinople (381) to clarify the formula.
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An early version of Pol Pot or Mao's cultural revolution?
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Theodosius IRoman emperor byname Theodosius The Great, in full Flavius Theodosius


born Jan. 11, AD 347, Cauca [Coca], Gallaecia died Jan. 17, 395, Mediolanum [Milan]

Theodosius I, Roman emperor of the East (379–392) and then sole emperor of both East and West (392–395), who, in vigorous suppression of paganism and Arianism, established the creed of the Council of Nicaea (325) as the universal norm for Christian orthodoxy and directed the convening of the second general council at Constantinople (381) to clarify the formula.
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An early version of Pol Pot or Mao's cultural revolution?
Far worse than these modern despots were the christian despots of the fourth century. Ammianus tells us of the torture of the upper classes under the rule of these types of people - analogous to the treatment of the Tibetan upper classes under the chinese invasion c.1950 - but far more extreme. Constantine of course has the precedent for these actions.
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The Fourth Church Council of Carthage prohibits to all, including its bishops, the study of Gentile books. Porphyrius, bishop of Gaza, demolishes almost all the Pagan Temples of his city (except nine of them that remain active).

399
With a new edict (13th July) Emperor Flavius Arcadius orders all remaining Temples, mainly in the countryside, to be immediately demolished: «Si qua in agris templa sunt, sine turba ac tumultu diruantur. His enim deiectis atque sublatis omnis superstitioni materia consumetur»

400
Bishop Nicetas destroys the Oracle of God Dionysus in Vesai and baptises all the Gentiles of this area.

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The christian mob of Carthage lynches Gentiles and destroys Temples and "idols"
Might a certain alleged parody being discussed here be slightly later?

Well, a synopsis of "The Acts of Philip" appears to match these events focussed on Carthage, where Philip is commanded to go by Jesus in a vision. At the end, the christian angel appointed by Jesus to watch over Philip slays forty Jewish priests, and gains many christian converts.

It is an interesting coincidence. Thanks for pointing this out.


There are a number of dating estimates for the Acts of Philip that vary between the mid and the late fourth century, so a date at the end of the century would not be too far removed from the current estimates.

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