Truthtells

Provide your best arguments against the Bible?

Only your top 2 or 3 arguments! I am not interested in your petty disputes.

Nightson

The prophecy in Ezekial 26: 1-14 never came true.

Pastor's Nightmare

ARGUMENT 1
Internal Contradiction. The Bible says two things, which both cannot be true. Here are seven of them. This undermines the logical foundations of The Bible.

1.Two different accounts are given of Judas's death in The Book of Matthew and The Book of Acts.
a.So Judas threw the money into the temple and left. Then he went away and hanged himself. (Matthew 27:5)
b.With the reward he got for his wickedness, Judas bought a field; there he fell headlong, his body burst open and all his intestines spilled out. (Acts 1:18)

2.In The Book of Matthew, it is stated that Joseph's father is Jacob while The Book of Luke states that Joseph's father is Heli.
a. and Jacob the father of Joseph, the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ. (Matthew 1:16)
b.Now Jesus himself was about thirty years old when he began his ministry. He was the son, so it was thought, of Joseph, the son of Heli, the son of Matthat,... (Luke 3:23)

3.The authors of The Book of Luke and The Book of John give different accounts of Jesus's last words.
a.Jesus called out with a loud voice, "Father, into your hands I commit my spirit." When he said this, he breathed his last. (Luke 23:46)
b.When he received the drink, Jesus said, "It is finished." With that, he bowed his head and gave up his spirit. (John 19:30)

4.It is claimed in Acts that Jesus was the first to rise from the dead, but it is also stated that Jesus before his crucifixion raised Lazarus from the dead.
a.that the Christ would suffer and, as the first to rise from the dead, would proclaim light to his own people and to the Gentiles. (Acts 26:23)
b.When he had said this, Jesus called in a loud voice, "Lazarus, come out!" The dead man came out, his hands and feet wrapped with strips of linen, and a cloth around his face. Jesus said to them, "Take off the grave clothes and let him go." (John 11:43-44)

5.Jesus is said to baptize and also not to baptize in The Book of John.
a.After this, Jesus and his disciples went out into the Judean countryside, where he spent some time with them, and baptized. (John 3:22)
b.The Pharisees heard that Jesus was gaining and baptizing more disciples than John, although in fact it was not Jesus who baptized, but his disciples. (John 4:2)

6.It is claimed in John that no one has seen God, but Stephen claims to see heaven open and to see Jesus next to God.
a.No one has ever seen God. (John 1:18)
b.But Stephen, full of the Holy Spirit, looked up to heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God. "Look", he said, "I see heaven open and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God." (Acts 7:55-56)

7.Matthew states that one angel appears before Mary while John states that two angels appear before Mary. Furthermore, they give different accounts of the conversation, which occurred.
a.There was a violent earthquake, for an angel of the Lord came down from heaven and, going to the tomb, rolled back the stone and sat on it. His appearance was like lightning, and his clothes were white as snow. The guards were so afraid of him that they shook and became like dead men.
The angel said to the women, "Do no be afraid, for I know that you are looking for Jesus, who was crucified." (Matthew 28:2-5)
b.but Mary stood outside the tomb crying. As she wept, she bent over to look into the tomb and saw two angels in white, seated where Jesus' body had been, one at the head and the other at the foot.
They asked her, "Women, why are you crying?"
"They have taken my Lord away," she said, "and I don't know where they have put him." (John 20:11-13)


ARGUMENT 2
The Bible teaches immoral things. Here are lines demonstrating creulty towards children. This undermines the ethical foundations of The Bible.

Exodus 20:5 "I the Lord they God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me."

Lev. 26:22 "I will also send wild beasts among you, which shall rob you of your children..."

Num 31:17 "Now therefore kill every male among the little ones." (Note: The language was toned down in the NIV Bible. But, it is still pretty brutal.)

Prov 20:30 "Blows that wound cleanse away evil; strokes make clear the innermost parts."

NIV it reads

Prov 20:30 "Blows and wounds cleanse away evil, and beatings purge the inmost being."

Ezek 9:6 "Slay utterly old and young, both maids and little children."

1 Sam. 15:3 "...slay both man and woman, infant and suckling."

Deut. 28:53 "And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy sons and of thy daughters."

ARGUMENT 3
The Bible utilizes psychological manipulation. This undermines the psychological tactics of The Bible.

The Bible instills a fear of eternal hell. "There will be a gnashing of teeth." Furthermore, The Bible resolves the freewill/determinism debate resoundingly in favor of freewill. The effect of both of these factors put together is propagandist mind-control. A person lives in terrible fear of making the wrong choice. In that state of mind, they are subject to psychological manipulation.

That was three arguments.

Steven Carr

I dont understand your statement.

What are your top 2 or 3 arguments against Aesop's Fables or Shakespeare?

Truthtells

Nightson,

Didn't Ez. 26.1-14 happen 586 BC? I thought Nebuchandnezzar attacked the city of Tyre which took about 15 years (586-571), due to the back side of Tyre which was always being replinished from the sea from ships.

Truthtells

Pastor Nightmare,

I just wanted your best 3 specific arguments. Of all those examples, which are your best 3?

Truthtells

Steven,

I don't understand your question. I don't have any arguments against Aesop's Fables or Shaespeare.

Nightson

The city was never sacked. And it certainly hasn't never been found again, nor has it remained uninhabited and a bare rock.

Atheist_Scathe

1) Book of ancient, highly erroneous stories.
2) No evidence for gods.

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No evidence for the wilder Biblical claims (worldwide flood, Hebrew migration from Egypt to Canaan, certain Biblical battles...).
Biblical contradictions.
Proclamations about a "loving and merciful" god, followed by mass murders by said god.