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I Am Only An Egg · 04-30-2006, 05:34 PM

"Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall."
-Proverbs 16:18

Atleast try to adhere to the guidelines of your religion Richbee. I won't try to disprove that Jesus existed because I'm not a scholar in that field, but you're not going to convince anyone by being condescending, it distracts people from your evidence (whenever you're going to start showing that).

post tenebras lux · 05-01-2006, 02:36 AM

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This was a very long first post

Hi Trina17: please let me be the first to welcome you to IIDB. I hope you like it here, learn stuff and have a good time in general.

Why not go to The Lounge and be friendly some time?

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Agenda07 · 05-01-2006, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Dargo

Could is be because 20th and 21st century sources don't agree with his viewpoint? He's hardly the only Christian apologist to mostly quote from 19th century experts.

I met someone a while ago who claimed that 19th century scholarship was more accurate than modern scholarship because it was nearer to the events. Sad really.

Jon Barleycorn · 05-01-2006, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Richbee

Rather a silly notion don't you think, since the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus was timed with Passover.

On the other hand, pagan fertility rites of Spring were timed in different countries when Spring arrived.

LOL!

Actually the clue is in the name : Easter (ie; the festival of Eoster a fertillity goddess if memory serves!) :huh:

Richbee · 05-01-2006, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Jon Barleycorn

Actually the clue is in the name : Easter (ie; the festival of Eoster a fertillity goddess if memory serves!) :huh:

So what?

Hat tip to the bunny rabbit and some eggs.

Christianity was and is big enough to allow for some light hearted moments of laughter.

The death, and resurrection of Jesus occurred around the most significant of Jewish holidays - Passover.

Richbee · 05-01-2006, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by I Am Only An Egg

"Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall."
-Proverbs 16:18

Atleast try to adhere to the guidelines of your religion Richbee. I won't try to disprove that Jesus existed because I'm not a scholar in that field, but you're not going to convince anyone by being condescending, it distracts people from your evidence (whenever you're going to start showing that).

You're off topic.

TomboyMom · 05-01-2006, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesse Leigh

G'morning!

If the crucifixion did not take place, why was there a worldwide darkness (recorded by the respective powers that were at that time) for a full three hours at the moment of Christ's death? Even in Rome they recorded it, and the records are still available today.

SOMETHING obviously happened - can anyone explain this?

FWIW - Jesse.

Can you provide a credible source or support for this allegation?

Richbee · 05-01-2006, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by FatherMithras

Have you been doing any better than here? If not, I can see why you'd flee from them.

Equating atheism with nihilism. Wow, way to have no idea about reality again.

Correction, Atheism is irrational, illogical, incoherant, and existentially self-destructive.

It ends in eternal NIHILISM!

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Way to have a 160 year old quote. Is that supposed to be impressive or pathetic? Because it's pathetic.

So you have no evidence to the contrary, <edit>?

Richbee · 05-01-2006, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Agenda07

I met someone a while ago who claimed that 19th century scholarship was more accurate than modern scholarship because it was nearer to the events. Sad really.

No, no, you're sad, because there is no evidence outside of the New Testament historical records.

Accordingly, "modern scholarship" has never changed any facts here, just added a Philosophical bias of unbelief.

R. T. France, a British New Testament scholar, has written,

At the level of their literary and historical character we have good reason to treat the Gospels seriously as a source of information on the life and teaching of Jesus.... Indeed many ancient historians would count themselves fortunate to have four such responsible accounts [as the Gospels], written within a generation or two of the events, and preserved in such a wealth of early manuscript evidence. Beyond that point, the decision to accept the record they offer is likely to be influenced more by openness to a supernaturalist world view than by strictly historical considerations.

R. T. France, "The Gospels as Historical Sources for Jesus, the Founder of Christianity," Truth 1 (1985): 86.

TomboyMom · 05-01-2006, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Richbee

The death, and resurrection of Jesus occurred around the most significant of Jewish holidays - Passover.

Can you provide any support for this assertion outside of the Christian bible?

If not, do you accept the assertion of other holy books as true without any outside verification?

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I Am Only An Egg Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New York Posts: 1,024	"Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall." -Proverbs 16:18 Atleast try to adhere to the guidelines of your religion Richbee. I won't try to disprove that Jesus existed because I'm not a scholar in that field, but you're not going to convince anyone by being condescending, it distracts people from your evidence (whenever you're going to start showing that).

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