Clivedurdle

But what is so special about the name of Jesus?

Chili

Nothing except that as the master key we are Jesuits by nature much like Jesus was a Nazarite by nature. When they replaced Judas with Matthew he became the villain and that is about when Mary opened Purgatory in Rome.

Baalazel

You are right to ask about the magical nature of religion. There is among the laws of the practice of the magical arts one called The Law of Words (symbols) of Power. This law says that words are symbols that are able to change the inner and outer realities of those who use them.

The view is that words, as symbols, have accumulated power through use over the millennia. Some say there is an intrinsic connection between symbols and the forces and concepts they represent. Intrinsic because this process is beyond human design and is a function of the symbol itself.

Among these symbols are names. In magical systems a name is the thing named. It is to say that there is an analogical connection between the name and the thing named. This connection is created by the shared structure of the name/symbol and the named/object. Further, to know the true name of a place, person, or thing is to have complete control of over it.

How does this relate to the name of Jesus? This is not too difficult to work out. It is simply that to call upon the name of Jesus is raise ones’ self to the heavens. It is to accrue the power the symbolic name has collected over thousands of years.

Calling upon the name of a deity is to call upon the vast storehouse of energy that resides, not only in the name Jesus, but also the energy existing in the names of all deities. The name of Jesus is the path to the power of the eternal, infinite, Godhead for believers. To call upon the name of Jesus is to have control over him. To have control is to be able to bring desire to fulfillment. It is to be a co-creator with God.

I don’t expect any of you will accept the foundations of the magical arts as appropriate to the modern life. That is not my point. My perspective is that all religious thought is magical thinking. Few people, and assuredly few Christians, recognize the true nature of their beliefs. It does us a service in our debates with religionists to know the nature of their beliefs even when they don’t. Most especially when they don’t.

Baal

Minimalist

Was there anything special about the name Yeshua?

Calilasseia

You're not thinking of 2√231 by any chance?

Only I remember a really BAD movie where this cropped up. Something about a nuclear reactor which ended up with really goofy monster heads with evil piranha-toothed grimaces upon them and a computer that kept doing weird things if you typed the above number into it. Can't remember the title though.

Anyone care to refresh my memory over this atrocious movie as a tangential diversion? (Note: it was shown on British TV sometime in the 1990s).

mountainman

It was invented for use as the name
of a new Roman divinity in the fourth
century, and not any earlier.

A century earlier Ardashir, the Persian
warlord and king of kings invented the
Zoroastrian formalities for his empire:
monotheism and the army.

Notably Ardashir burnt every line of
writing from the ancient Parthian
civilisation. Constantine started
the same process with the Hellenic.

He took the Greco- out of the
Greco-Roman civilisation, much
gold, and perverted their literature.

The self-perpetuated Nicaean's
completed the task by the end
of the 4th C.

It only remained for Cyril to refute
those terrible lies of Julian, and
dispose of Julian's three books.

Christianity was known as a fiction
and a fraud, IMO, from 325-425 CE.

Sift the papyrii and the epigraphy.
Time will tell if I am right or wrong.

Best wishes,

Pete Brown

Clivedurdle

Exactly - it means saviour doesn't it? Is it a huge tautology? Of course Jesus is the saviour of the world.

Clivedurdle

And slowly the HJ disappears further into this old magical mystery tour.

My first name is Clive - probably chosen for similar magical reasons - a personal fantasy is to copy Clive of India! Calling on the name of Jesus is fantastically powerful, God with us, the gods talking to you. A real human Jesus is not good enough. A son of god who has become human and understands us is a superb psychological device.

Clivedurdle

I am sympathetic to the idea of invention, but invention of what? Joshua was a very ancient name. Maybe it is the invention of a god, but when? I would argue as an antithesis to Augustus, probably by mistake - a classroom exercise?

Toto

It means Yahweh saves, and it was a very common name, the equivalent of Joshua. The reference was probably to Joshua's role in leading the nation of Israel to the promised land.