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Yes, certainly. | 2 | 2.63% | |
Yes, it seems like a good bet. | 7 | 9.21% | |
There's a fair chance. | 5 | 6.58% | |
I don't really know. | 5 | 6.58% | |
It seems rather improbable. | 17 | 22.37% | |
You must be joking. | 34 | 44.74% | |
What day is it again? | 6 | 7.89% | |
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12-01-2006, 06:28 AM | #11 |
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Not to distract from the thread, but I don't know where else to put this question...
Hey, Peter, did you omit a link on the main page for the Acts of Andrew & Matthias, or is it under a different title? And what about the other Gnostic Acts? --Ben |
12-01-2006, 06:31 AM | #12 |
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Everyone knows that Jerome invented Eusebius, therefore Eusebius could not have invented Christianity, Jerome even took one of his own names to create this psuedonym, Jeromes full name is Sophronius Eusebius Hieronymus Stridonensis. Please find a manuscript of a Eusebian work that predated 400 CE, it can't be done!(snark)
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12-01-2006, 07:06 AM | #15 |
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I think it is not probably that Eusebius invented Christianity. In my opinion, Eusebius solidified one of the many concepts of Christianity, that is, the prophesied, begotten Son of God, born of the Virgin Mary, crucified under Pontius Pilate, resurrected and ascended to heaven, sitting on the right hand of God.
It was through the invention of Eusebius, under the guidance and support of Constantine, that his concept of Christianity was able to derail all other concepts of Christianity and having branded those concepts as heresies, a campaign of destruction was initiated. Perhaps, Eusebius invented all those means of eradication. |
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Although you ran more of a risk than you might imagine: the manuscript which contains the Syriac translation of the Theophania, British Library. Additional Ms. 12150, dates from 411 AD. This of course means that (in the real world) it must have been translated some decades earlier, and thus that Eusebius' works were going into Syriac even in his own lifetime. (But such a manuscript is strictly a fluke -- I think it may be the very oldest Syriac ms. in existence). 4th century mss are rare. All the best, Roger Pearse |
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attributed to Julian's invectives: "fabrication, fiction fable, monstrous tale" -- composed by wickedness. Quote:
The phrase "Eusebius' invention of ecclesiastical history" occurs multiple times in the article of Momigliano. He definitely looks at this new appearance of this "ecclesiastic" history, as in a totally separate category that the normal history, such as that written by Ammianus Marcellinus. Best wishes, Pete |
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of writing his works (HE,IPG,etc). Considering the number of letters issued by Constantine on the subject of the new Roman religion, which were all of course retained and quoted by Eusebius, how do you dismiss the fact that the consensus of opinion now points to the years 313/314 CE. How could they possibly have avoided one another? Pete |
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Ahoy, me hearties, why don't you have a say in the affair? You've witnessed parries from mountainman and thrusts from me on the topic and you've heard from the scurvy crew, but what about the rest of you, you lily-livered land lubbers? It's your turn.
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