John A. Broussard

Phew!

Thanks for the clarification.

I hadn't realized that I was sealed by the Holy Spirit of God for the day of redemption.

Can you point out some of the many other things that the Holy Spirit is?

Clivedurdle

Has anyone studied how different biblical authors use the term holy spirit, spirit of god and similar and if that is evidence of tampering or different authors?

Were authors of Paul and Acts for example actually using common definitions?

Is Spirit of God actually the same thing?

For example -
I hadn't noticed that permutation before!

steamer

Consubstantial: Of the same substance, nature, or essence.
Spiration: The act of breathing. [Obs.] --Barrow.

Magical and meaningless words to describe a magical and meaningless peice of ether.

Dirac_Delta

I think that it's relevant that the word spirit is of the feminin gender in Greek and in Hebrew. At least in my mind a trinity composed of a man, a woman and a son makes more sense then a trinity composed only by men.

Orthodox_Freethinker

It's hard to answer a Christian when the question itself is poorly informed. First of all, God is not 'angry' but just. The Father is not only the judge of the unbeliever but the comforter of the righteous.
God does not 'send' anyone to Hell given that the afterlife is beyond time and space and one's fate is dependent upon, not the action of God, but one's personal choice as to whether or not believe in Him.

"There is no "place" of torment, or even a "place" apart from God, because there is no "place" at all; you are outside of time and space. The "place" is actually a condition of either punishment ("hell") or paradise ("heaven") depending on how you experience the presence of God and His Uncreated Engergies.

Consider a person who hates God, and anything to do with religion, and has done nothing but pursued his own self-centered desires all his life. It would be far more terrifying, and painful, to spend eternity in the fiery embrace of God's almighty and divine love with no escape, than to be far from Him.

Experiencing God's presence and His in-filling transforming Energies in glory or in torment, as Paradise or as Punishment, is the heaven and hell of the Bible. Not something God did to us, but rather something we did to ourselves. God unconditionally pours out His love on all, WHETHER WE WANT IT OR NOT, whether we are ready for it or not, when we enter the afterlife. This is why the Gospel or "good news" of Jesus Christ should be shared with all people, of all nations, in all tongues. For there is nothing to fear from God's perfect love, since love casts out all fear.

However, it is not totally wrong to understand the after life as "type" of Heaven and Hell. Because from each individual's perspective, it will not be perceived as the same "place", but rather as either torment and darkness you can not escape, or as the paradise you have always longed for. For those judged, they will experience God's presence as eternal darkness and torment. Though it is very important to keep in mind what is the cause of either of these conditions, or one could reach very wrong conclusions about the nature of God, as they have in western theologies. To misrepresent the nature of a loving God would cause one to conclude that it was God's intention to punish his creation. Indeed, one blasphemes the reputation of the God of the Bible when you make him into an angry vengeful god that punishes His creation. The cause of the torment is the poor choices that we make, not God. If one thinks of these two different "places" as conditions that we choose to be in, rather than "compartments" God puts us in, it would be more accurate.

And it will certainly be "paradise" to finally experience His Divine Love up close and in person for those who seek it. It is all in the perception."
http://aggreen.net/beliefs/heaven_hell.html

Jesus did not 'die for our sins' given that He could already forgive sin before the crucixion but died in order to save us from death, a gift which you may either accept or reject.

The next time you ask a question of Christian theology, please make sure to research some Christian theology beforehand. If that doesn't answer your question then bring it before a believer.

richard2

Regurgitation at its finest.

Orthodox_Freethinker

No. The OP is misinformation at its finest.

popeye1

orthodox freethinker

If you can TELL me why there are so many errors in the New Testament and contradictions,allso what makes you think this is the official book of God andfor why someone has to believe by faith and fear. I might consider becoming a Christian

richard2

I was talking about your post. When I read your post, I knew that you were just regurgitating apologetics you've read. I've read those books also. Very mechanical.

flintknapper

IIRC, somewhere in the Bible it says that sins against the Father or the Son can be forgiven. Sins against the Holy Ghost, however, cannot be forgiven.