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Prophecies from around the world
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best known and accepted by three major faiths. There is a school of thought that maintains that the Messiah would not be a human being at all but the Lord himself. In other words at the appointed time the Lord Himself would personally act to redeem His people. Among that school of thought are the writers of such Apocryphal works as the Sybilline Books(particularly the 3rd part),the Book of Henoch,the Psalms of Solomon,the Book of Jubilees,Ethiopians,the Book of Baruch,And the later Apocryphal works such as the Ethical Wills of Abraham,Isaac,Jacob,the Twelve Tribes,Moses and Solomon. "And the Messiah will sit in the yeShiva,....And Elijah of blessed memory will stand before Him as interpreter,And when He expounds,His voice goes from one end of the world to the other.... (Yemenite Midrash,pp 349-350) The Holy One ,blessed be He said to Israel:"In this world I sent an angel to put to flight the nations of the world before you. But in the Future to Come I Myself shall lead you and shall send Elijah before you......" (Midrash Tanhuma Mishpatim 18,end) "At that time Michael the great celestial prince will rise and blow the shofar 3 times...And Messiah ben David(annointed of David) and Elijah will be revealed. And the 2 of them will go to Israel who will be in the desert of peoples,and elijah will say to them:"This is the Messiah". And He will return to their heart[which will be faint] and will strengthen their hand...." (T'fillat R.Shim'on ben yohai,Bet haMidrash) (2:125) this next bit is from a site that expounds on stuff from the torah, about the jewish prophecy for the coming of the messiah, first is a bit then the link to the site. "In Jewish tradition, according to Lewis Ginzberg in the Legends of the Jews, Elijah is to re-appear three days before the messiah to herald his coming. After lamenting over the devastation of the Holy land, he declares: “Now, peace will come to the land.” The next day he declares: “God will come to the land.” On the third day, his message is: “Salvation will come to the land.” The angel Michael then blows his trumpet and Elijah appears at last to announce the messiah..... ....Michael is the messiah! Michael in the scriptures is the face of God, just as Mithras seemed to have been for Ahuramazda. The second announcement by Elijah is that “God will come to the land.” After that the messiah is announced, so God is the messiah, and he appears in the form of the angel Michael." Metatron, Michael, Melchizedek, Messiah this site is messianic prophecies from various cultures and faiths they all believe in an immanent messiah figure, coincidence ? |
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I checked out the link just for giggles. It had a couple of factual errors in areas that I know about. It makes me wonder about the rest of it. First, Metteya or Maitreya isn't really a messiah, just the next in a long line of Buddhas. He also isn't due back any time soon; according to the tradition I follow, not for another 5 billion years. It also lists Amida as a Christ-like Bodhisattva, which is wrong. Amida (or Amitabha) is a Buddha. It's true that his sect has some superficial resemblance to Christianity (e.g., devotional reliance on a superior being for salvation), but the end goal is still enlightenment. His followers hope to be reborn in his Pure Land, Sukhavati, where the impediments to awakening are fewer. This looks to me like yet another new-age attempt to shoe-horn all religions into one small box. People have been trying to do this since at least the 19th century (starting with the Bahais, if I'm not mistaken). Unfortunately, it's usually done to pass off their own teacher as the supposed universal messiah. Caveat lector. Daniel |
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your opinion is your opinion,
others are theirs, there are many sects and various beliefs in all religious traditions, the Buddhist faiths have a lot of variety, not just yours. |
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: In apprximately 500 BC Buddha (Gautama Buddha) 'turned the Wheel of Dharma'. He explained that the wheel would turn every 500 yrs and there will be 5 turnings (2500 yrs = ~2000AD). Buddha said each revolution would result in a decline of the Dharma (spiritual truth). He said the final turn would lead to a period of chaos and strife leading to a new phase of consciousness of the planet and an unprecedented change in man.
thats a quote from this site about millenial prophecies of the worlds religions,it goes into a bit more depth then the earlier one. also The Panchen Lama is considered to be an emanation of Amitabha Buddha. this is the panchen lama. there are many varieties of buddhist thought, where the 5 billion year idea comes from i don't know, some buddhists expect amida or amitabha in 30,000 years ,it all depends on whose prophecy you listen to, this monk or that monk recieves a vision and gives a prophecy, they are all different. either way many consider maitreya and amitabha to be different names and takes on the same being, amida or amitabha being a god like entity and maitreya being a boddhisatva or enlightened human, these various ideas take shape depending on the tradition. in any case many buddhits have been looking for Maitreya for years know, some like benjamin creme say he has been found and appears now and then, L.Ron Hubbard claimed to be Maitreya also. |
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I don't see this thread as a BC&H one. I think I'll see how it fares in NARP.
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