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Old 09-22-2009, 11:33 AM   #31
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Well, if you were a slave, life was shit whether you were a man OR a woman. So unless you think being a brothel slave was any better than a rower...
You're probably too young to have seen the Woody Allen movie, "What's New Pussycat."

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Victor Skakapopulis: [I]'ve got something at the striptease. I help the girls dress and undress.
Michael James: Nice job.
Victor Skakapopulis: Twenty francs a week.
Michael James: Not very much.
Victor Skakapopulis: It's all I can afford.
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Well, if you were a slave, life was shit whether you were a man OR a woman. So unless you think being a brothel slave was any better than a rower...
Then as now women work in better environments with less physical demands.
Guess you're not a woman and guess you don't know what the survival rate was of pregnant women back in the old days.
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Then as now women work in better environments with less physical demands.
Guess you're not a woman and guess you don't know what the survival rate was of pregnant women back in the old days.
You really want to get into this? We're talking about ALL women and ALL men yes? Tell me, who today suffers the most work-related injuries and fatalities? Who does the dirtiest most dangerous jobs? Who gets killed first when the enemy is at the gates? Who statistically dies younger? Or, who fills the majority of service and clerical jobs (in climate-controlled offices and shops)?

Childbirth? Do you think it was midwives who improved natal survival, and reduced danger from infection, hemorrhage etc? No, it was patriarchal medical science. Contraception? Abortion? Who do you think made these safer and more efficient, the sob-sisters or the lab guys?

Spare me the middle-class Western feminist cant. Our women's studies grads are the most affluent most educated most mobile people in the history of the planet, yet they promote gender bigotry where there's no justification. The "bad old days" were bad for everyone, not just the ladies [and don't even start with the prehistoric matriarchal paradise schtick]
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[staffwarn]Let's keep modern gender politics out of this. Thanks[/staffwarn]
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