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Chili · 12-20-2008, 12:26 AM

Just the ego will rapture so that which remains is in heaven. But what else is new, Christians always have everything just backwards.

Chili · 12-20-2008, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by sugarhitman

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Theres a simple answer for this as well....Israel. The nation of Israel could not receive the Messianic promises because Israel as a nation did not repent nor receive the Messiah. Thus Jesus's words words before he departed "You shall not see me again until you say BLESSED IS HE WHO COMES IN THE NAME OF THE LORD." Israel's repentance and the return of Christ are related.

Except that Jesus left and Christ moved to Rome where we have Christ among us. Jesus will come back to show us the way and will do this time and time again to show each one of us the way.

Chili · 12-23-2008, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by xj2yzz

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1) What are the verses that most christians used to support the idea of rapture and 2nd coming?

I think its the 144,000 virgins or something.Only 144,000 in a country of 300 million here in the states thats not many.

It is if you are the only one there.

Chili · 12-23-2008, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by purple_kathryn

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Originally Posted by Lugubert

Agree in point but not entirely on grammar.

The Rapture concept is totally unknown in supposedly very Protestant Sweden, except among some Googlers and the like.

I don't know if anyone here (Northern Ireland) believes in it (I'd doubt the majority of people have heard of it).

(it is just wisfull thinking by burning saved sinner to find relief).

Chili · 12-23-2008, 07:21 AM

Just consider that in the bible there is always two men or two women either on the roof or in the kitchen and it does not seem to matter where they are or who they are as long as there is two of each at the same location so that one of them can rapture to expose the true identity of man that remains . . . and this will be the androgyne image of man wherein we are God.

. . . and thus no marriage in heaven and no virgins needed which here now is the essence of virginity to be adored in our Coronation of the Blessed.

Chili · 12-23-2008, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by sugarhitman

The Rapture of the "Church" seems to be the result of Replacement Theology which incorrectly believes that the Church is separate from the nation of Israel which is not true. This is why certain church leaders predicted that Jesus was returning in a few years or days when Israel was no longer a nation. The OT prophecies and Revelations and even Jesus himself says that he returns during a time when Israel would be attacked by the Gentiles or nations. The Rapture cannot take place without Israel existing....because Israel IS THE CHURCH.

Of course it is true and the rapture of the Church is the rapture of the Jew to leave the single nation Israel the state of mind without a Jew and so is equal to the arrival of the messiah for that [particular] Jew.

12-20-2008, 12:26 AM	#1
Chili Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Alberta Posts: 11,885	Chili on the Rapture split Just the ego will rapture so that which remains is in heaven. But what else is new, Christians always have everything just backwards.

12-23-2008, 07:21 AM	#5
Chili Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Alberta Posts: 11,885	Rapture explaine in full. Period. Just consider that in the bible there is always two men or two women either on the roof or in the kitchen and it does not seem to matter where they are or who they are as long as there is two of each at the same location so that one of them can rapture to expose the true identity of man that remains . . . and this will be the androgyne image of man wherein we are God. . . . and thus no marriage in heaven and no virgins needed which here now is the essence of virginity to be adored in our Coronation of the Blessed.

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