anonymite

Not only is there a Muslim hell, but it burns 15% hotter than Christian hell with 1/3 more tornemt. Better hope Yaweh carts you off before Allah gets you.

Magus55

Don't forget that the majority of people in Hell are women.

winstonjen

Because they're women, right? Sounds like Christian hell to me. Is it because they won't be Jesus' fuck-buddies?

beyelzu

You do realize that this is grd and not elsewhere right???

winstonjen

Yes, but religious texts are chock-full of absurdities.

beyelzu

I dont disagree with this, but as someone told me once, the level of debate is supposed to be higher up here in the upper forums.

Lonely_Road_Of_Faith

Considering I'm pretty familiar with both Christianity and Islam, I'd say, no.

All things considered, have you read the Old Testament of the Bible? According to the OT God did some pretty harsh things to people...the Islamic beliefs about God are quite similar to the Jewish belief.

I know some Old-Testament-focused Christian fundies who have a lot more in common with Muslim fundies then they'd ever care to admit.

Lonely_Road_Of_Faith

The Bible says the same thing, it's in the story of the Rich man and Lazarus, I think.

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And Allah wants people to go to hell, there's another one where he says along the lines of "I created hell to fill with men and jinn alike", and another where he says infidels are infidels because Allah prevents them from seeing the truth.

Ever read Romans chapter 1? Or for that matter the entire book of Revelation? The Bible is full of unrepentant sinners who God sends off to eternal punishment, even though in some places the Bible says God is not willing that any should perish, it seems to me that an awful lot of people perish anyway.

All things considered, if you actually read the Bible and the Quran, Christianity and Islam hold many of the same principles in common. One of those is belief in a God that both religions say is the One True God, and a God of love and peace and justice...but who did some pretty harsh things back in the day.

It's perhaps the greatest dichotomy that a God who the Abrahamic faiths define as a God of love has done some pretty damn evil things to people...but God has a lot of very Human characteristics in my opinion, could be He even makes mistakes once in a while, just like we do.

I'm a Christian, but I'm not opposed to taking a logical or realistic view of my religion...or for that matter my friend Mohammed's religion.

AJ113

I see. You don't think that the extracts posted by atheist_in_foxhole depict an evil being?

All things considered, have you read the Old Testament of the Bible?

Yes

According to the OT God did some pretty harsh things to people

Yep, he is an evil being too.

...the Islamic beliefs about God are quite similar to the Jewish belief.

And?

I know some Old-Testament-focused Christian fundies who have a lot more in common with Muslim fundies then they'd ever care to admit.

And somehow this makes Allah good?

This is a red herring logical fallacy. If you don't think Allah is evil, please state why.