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Old 01-23-2007, 08:50 PM   #11
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Now I just need one for the NT.
Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.(Mt 12:31, KJV)
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The 613 commandments aren't sins. Obviously a lot is missing here.
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There are 613.
My favorite is #366. "That a woman should not wear men's clothing (Deut. 22:5)."
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Mine is always wearing my shirts. She spills chocolate syrup on every one of them.
Yeah, mine paints in my shirts. Grrr.

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The 613 commandments aren't sins. Obviously a lot is missing here.
Yes, obviously. But that's an "official" list I could come up with.

There are "7" cardinal sins according to the catholic church.

Here's a (incomplete) list of 11 mortal sins. Here's a list of 50 or so mortal sins framed under the ten commandments (this one doesn't seem to be as biblically based).

I don't know if there's a list of venial sins anywhere.

Not sure what you're purposes are but...

I have developed quite a long list myself in the process of my deconversion, going straight off the Bible. I've used some of these other lists to cross reference with.

Grouping between ones I could support (such as to not put down or take advantage of people with handicaps - Leviticus 19:14, Psalms 22:22) and ones that I can't support (such as forbid my kids from marrying someone based upon race - Genesis 24:3, 28:1).

It's been a long and arduous process. My list of commands I can support is about four times longer than the ones I can't support. So far the ones I can't support are mostly "believe in" verses (which I don't see how one can compel oneself to "believe" what one doesn't), ancient Mesopotamian lifestyle things (about extra wives, about other races, about slaves, ...), and relatively absurd things (such as not mixing types of fabric) that are pretty much ignored by most modern day Xtians anyhow.

The whole point of the back pocket exercise is that when/if I come out with my fundie family and friends, I'll have a list of what I will and won't do that really isn't all that much different from their lists. And that they actually will have an (implied) list of biblical commands that they don't follow themselves. Also, I will have done the homework and thought through it more than they probably ever have.

Sorry as I suppose a lot of this is off-topic for BC&H.

Anyhow, the short of it is summed up on the Wiki 10 commandments page pretty well. The Abrahamic religions/sects/denominations don't even agree on what the top 10 are.

And as you can imagine, the 613 mitzvot aren't agreed upon either.
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The 613 commandments aren't sins. Obviously a lot is missing here.
That's quite right.
These commandment can be divided into 2 groups negative & positive.
An example of the negative is the one mentioned earlier. These can be paraphrased as "They shalt not ..."
An example of the positive is "Love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength." Deut 6:5. These can be paraphrased as " They shalt ..."

Also the no. of +ve & -ve is not equal.
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That list of 613 commands (thanks OneInFundieville) is exactly what I'm looking for. Now I just need one for the NT.
According to the NIV there are > 100 sins.
If you really want to look try the following for a lot of them
Col 3:5-6
1 Cor 6:9-10
Esp 5:5-6
Gal 5:19-21
Matt 25:41-45
Jam 4:17
Matt 15:19
Matt 5:21-37
etc:
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That's quite right.
These commandment can be divided into 2 groups negative & positive.
An example of the negative is the one mentioned earlier. These can be paraphrased as "They shalt not ..."
An example of the positive is "Love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength." Deut 6:5. These can be paraphrased as " They shalt ..."

Also the no. of +ve & -ve is not equal.
And for many, it is a sin to love with anything less than all your heart, less than all your soul, less than all your strength. (Maybe there are actually 3 there.)
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