Magdlyn

I meant, have you spoken to most people of the Jewish faith? Are you, or were you, a Jew, as dado is?

Have you queried rebbes on the Jewish take on the prophecy question?

Ever hear the expression, ask 3 Jews a question, get 4 opinions?

NOGO

In Conclusion.

If Yahweh can predict the advent of Josiah three hundred years before his birth and that he was going to sacrifice priests of high places on a specific altar then He would know that Jep's daughter would be the first out of the house.

He therefore knew what the deal was about even if Jep did not.

dado

an angry rant does not equal a prediction. a prediction does not equal foretelling. foretelling does not equal omniscience. a prediction for 1000 years in the future is a lot easier than a prediction for tomorrow. words of man do not equal words of G-d.

etc etc etc.

he's all yours, Maggie, i sense more baggage than i have time to unpack.

argh. red sox.

NOGO

Right! And admitting that you are wrong is really tough isn't it?

Magdlyn

Nah, he didn't answer my questions from several posts back. I think you are the first educated Jew he has ever spoken to. Just liking bagels does not cut it.

They won last night, finally. My heart is like an old piece of shoe leather since last season.

NOGO

Are you saying that it is impossible for anyone to know what the Jewish faith says about any particular topic without talking to "most" Jews? And even then you will get so many different answers that the whole exercise becomes useless.

The way you frame your question it is impossible to know what any faith is about.

To claim that prophecies like the Josiah prophecy and many, many others do not imply omniscience is simply an ignorant statement made to try and get out of a difficult position in a debate.

dado

i'm with you, last season really really hurt. that last hit goes into the "will always remember where i was" folder of memories. but hey, the pattern lately has been Sox in first place before the allstar break and then fading a bit, maybe having the slump here before the break is a positive...um...omen .

Magdlyn

Oh, you soothsayer, you. Your mouth, God's ears, dude.

dado

let's turn it around: God's mouth, my ears, thereby proving omniscience.

Kryten

So this basically means we may just as well throw out all of it as being false, or having a greater chance at being false as opposed to being true?