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Old 09-30-2006, 08:57 AM   #1
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Christians usually claim that people born before jesus the christ could be saved.... they hold that accepting jesus as the savior is only necessary since the putative time of jesus. What arguement can i tell they ? :huh:
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Christians usually claim that people born before jesus the christ could be saved.... they hold that accepting jesus as the savior is only necessary since the putative time of jesus. What arguement can i tell they ? :huh:
Does that mean that the coming of Jesus has lead to more people being condemned to hell than if he hadn't come??
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Christians usually claim that people born before jesus the christ could be saved.... they hold that accepting jesus as the savior is only necessary since the putative time of jesus. What arguement can i tell they ? :huh:
You could perhaps tell them how you believe life should be lived, and why that way of living is true, without seeking reasons to asperse Christianity. Anyone can find reasons not to agree with things, and atheists commonly sound like fault-finders. If you can present some rational reason for living as you do -- and not just that it is not Christianity -- then you would be worth listening to. IMHO, anyway.

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Christians usually claim that people born before jesus the christ could be saved.... they hold that accepting jesus as the savior is only necessary since the putative time of jesus. What arguement can i tell they ? :huh:
Imagine a person who is smart enough to know that the idea of a god-man walking on water is really stupid, but who is dumb enough to believe that a god can blow smoke out his nostrils and hurl lightning bolts.

Such a person would have no trouble winning God’s approval before Jesus.

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You could perhaps tell them how you believe life should be lived, and why that way of living is true, without seeking reasons to asperse Christianity. Anyone can find reasons not to agree with things, and atheists commonly sound like fault-finders. If you can present some rational reason for living as you do -- and not just that it is not Christianity -- then you would be worth listening to. IMHO, anyway.

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Hey Roger,

Do you believe God can blow smoke out his nose, fire out his mouth, and hurl lightning bolts?

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Do you believe God can blow smoke out his nose, fire out his mouth, and hurl lightning bolts?

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Does God even have a nose, mouth, or hands? Or are they "immaterial" hands, whatever that means?
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Does God even have a nose, mouth, or hands? Or are they "immaterial" hands, whatever that means?
Well … see Psalm 18 or 2 Samuel 22. Evidently he shares many features with Godzilla.


The earth heaved and shook;
the foundations of the sky trembled.
They heaved because he was angry.
Smoke ascended from his nose;
fire devoured as it came from his mouth;
he hurled down fiery coals.


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Christians usually claim that people born before jesus the christ could be saved.... they hold that accepting jesus as the savior is only necessary since the putative time of jesus. What arguement can i tell they ? :huh:
Tell them that their god is a fake and that there is no reason for a decent person to believe that any of this is true.
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Christians usually claim that people born before jesus the christ could be saved.... they hold that accepting jesus as the savior is only necessary since the putative time of jesus. What arguement can i tell they ? :huh:
At least if they don't believe in exclusive salvation, though exclusive salvation is the traditional belief and many fundies continue to believe that -- "no salvation outside the Church".
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You could perhaps tell them how you believe life should be lived, and why that way of living is true, without seeking reasons to asperse Christianity. ...
How does that relate to the question of how exclusive Xian salvation is?

And would you say that about questions about any other religion?
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Christians usually claim that people born before jesus the christ could be saved.... they hold that accepting jesus as the savior is only necessary since the putative time of jesus. What arguement can i tell they ? :huh:
You could agree with them? After all, there is precious little lexicographical diference between the words argue and agree.
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