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Old 01-13-2009, 11:18 AM   #961
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Yeah, I didn't mean to imply that slavery was not followed at all in Achaemenid Persia, but it was not permitted as per Zoroastrian principles.
I do not see that slavery is mnetioned in Zoroastrian principles (not that I would be the one to know). Where is slavery even mentioned?
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Old 01-13-2009, 11:33 AM   #962
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Who knows how ancient Hebrews actually treated their slaves, and how many times the original texts might have been altered in order to try to make ancient Hebrews look good?
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If you read the text, it actually makes the Hebrews look bad.
Good, then you agree that the Hebrews were immoral.

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May I ask what you are trying to prove in this thread?
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Look at the very first post, I believe it is from you.
I just did. I tried to make the Hebrews look bad, and you just agreed with me.

I remind you that the texts do not reasonably prove how the Hebrews actually treated their slaves.
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Old 01-13-2009, 11:40 AM   #963
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If morality is an issue, you lose hands down because the God of the Bible is immoral.
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If the God if the Bible is immoral then it is consequential that morality is not an issue.
Will you please state that more simply? I do not have any idea what that means.

If the God of the Bible is immoral, no one should accept Christianity.
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Old 01-13-2009, 11:41 AM   #964
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Who knows how ancient Hebrews actually treated their slaves, and how many times the original texts might have been altered in order to try to make ancient Hebrews look good?
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If you read the text, it actually makes the Hebrews look bad.
Good, then you agree that the Hebrews were immoral.
of course I do. The Hebrews were a stubborn and obstinate people according to their own religious literature.

The Jebusites, Hitties, Germans, Polish, Zulus, American Indians, American Immigrants, and all other manner of men are immoral. The difference is that the Ancient Hebrews received mercy while the Canaanites received justice. I only want mercy from God, I do not want justice.
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Old 01-13-2009, 11:44 AM   #965
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Look at the very first post, I believe it is from you.
I just did. I tried to make the Hebrews look bad, and you agreed with me that they were bad.
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Old 01-13-2009, 11:46 AM   #966
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If morality is an issue, you lose hands down because the God of the Bible is immoral.
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If the God if the Bible is immoral then it is consequential that morality is not an issue.
Will you please state that more simply? I do not have any idea what that means.

If the God of the Bible is immoral, no one should accept Christianity.
If there is no God or God is not moral then it does not matter if the boy scouts help little old ladies across the street or run them over. there is no consequence or difference between the two.
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Old 01-13-2009, 11:48 AM   #967
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Look at the very first post, I believe it is from you.
I just did. I tried to make the Hebrews look bad, and you agreed with me that they were bad.
Congrats! but you could have celebrated about 30 pages ago if that is what you are after. Hebrews, and every other subset of humanity is depraved. You could have just quoted the bible.
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Old 01-13-2009, 11:50 AM   #968
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If there is no God,.......
Since I am agnostic, I have never made such a claim.

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.......or God is not moral then it does not matter if the boy scouts help little old ladies across the street or run them over.
If a God exists, and is immoral or amoral, why doesn't it matter whether or not anyone does good works?
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Old 01-13-2009, 11:53 AM   #969
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.......or God is not moral then it does not matter if the boy scouts help little old ladies across the street or run them over.
If a God exists, and is immoral or amoral, why doesn't it matter whether or not anyone does good works?
I beleive it is good works to run over little old ladies because they slow down traffic. Am I wrong?
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I just did. I tried to make the Hebrews look bad, and you agreed with me that they were bad.
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Congrats! But you could have celebrated about 30 pages ago if that is what you are after.
But that does not tell what you are after. What are you after?

Regarding "if that is what you are after," there is no if about it. It is obvious to everyone, including you, that I was trying to make the Hebrews look bad.

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That is a good example of racial bigotry, but what else should one expect from a race of people who appointed themselves as God's chosen people.

.......if a Hebrew deliberately killed a slave, he was not put to death, only punished, but not punished at all if the slave recovered in a day or two. That is more proof of racial bigotry.
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