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Johnny Skeptic · 02-04-2006, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Diogenes the Cynic

Hell, as a place of eternal torment after death, is not in the Bible. This discussion has cropped up here before. The following is a brief summation of my own which I posted in this thread last year.

Diogenes, Revelation 14:9-11 say "And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name." How do you interpret those texts?

sunsettommy · 02-20-2006, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Harumi

So I was talking to my liberal Christian friends. One is Catholic, the other is Lutheran.

Both know I am an atheist, and both know why I choose to be an atheist.

Neither believe I am going to hell. They understand this is against a commonly held belief, but argue that nothing in scripture states that nonbelievers go to hell. Nor any description that hell even exists.

I find that rather amazing and skeptical. Is what they say true? Any scripture to counter their arguments?

Actually anyone who dies goes to hell.

The word HELL means grave.

Sheol and hades refers to a grave.

Just another error perpetuated by Christianity.

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