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Old 12-15-2008, 04:10 PM   #11
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These are my thoughts on this Ben:

I think that the star of Bethlehem is bad news when the patron is not home and suggest that Herod was there first (in our tradition we used to go door to door caroling on epiphany).

We are dealing here with a pathenocarpic impregnation of the firstborn to be conceived in the mind of Joseph and bring forth that which he was created to be (ta ‘onta’ in the plural to make it Perpetual), and was conceived by the now called Immaculate Conception already before he was conceived in the flesh. This, then, was in answer to Joseph's question who earnestly was looking for the reign of God "who am I?"

To bring this about Mary theotokos was send down as the young maiden from the naos of Joseph, there called the city of God or Nazareth, wherein Mary was conceived and created by the devoted ark builder as the perfect image of mortal beauty to bring forth the firstborn of the clan of Joseph in Israel-of-old that is here now updated and re-created anew. She therefore is called the Ark of the Covenant wherein is contained the entire city of God of Joseph-our-hero to be exposed as his riches in heaven and be venerated in adornment for the rest of the world to see, or simply put: he is the sum total of his incarnation or solitary individual without an equal because for him heaven and earth are one and the same, which then is where Rev. 22 joins Genesis 2:2.

Now please note that the entire city of God in the mind of Joseph is the incense offering made by Zechariah in full assembly when his prayer was heard in Luke 8:10 and that Elizabeth was the Immaculate Conception of verse 13.

In the real world this is much like the seed found in a seedless watermelon wherein Mary was the melon (poor girl) and Elizabeth the voluminous seed contained therein (poor woman) as the undefiled manifestation of Joseph's parentage = the full assembly of Zechariah’s incense offering or his life-houseboat stocked with all of the animals arriving to celebrate the divine Cana event in evidence of this fig tree bearing its first fruit.
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