Originally Posted by dmarker

Midnight, maybe. Midwinter, no, it's Mithra who has the birthday on Dec 25, not Jesus. Midlife? What's midlife?

Originally Posted by dmarker

A mental priority? Doesn't Jesus say that he who looks at a woman with lust in his heart has committed adultery? So mental priorities would be the equivilant to abandonment in your view, wouldn't it?

Originally Posted by Jayne

Absolutely none ofcourse.




Consider the fact that a christian should love Christ enough to follow his example in every way they can. If someone loves their family that much the conflicts between what God considers acceptable and the family consider acceptable is enormous. Especially is your family aren't christians.

One says sex out of marriage is a sin. The other says not having sex before marriage is a sin. I love both enough to follow their example in everything. When they contradict eachother who do I follow?

At some point I'm going to have to choose. If I love my family as much as Christ, I might just choose to follow them and lose Christ. The only other option is to make the decision to put Christ above my family.

Originally Posted by Chili

Midnight, midwinter, midlife is the 666 which is the number of "man." The number of that "certain man" is for you to figure out and that takes some ingenuity.

What does Mithra have to do with our mythology?

Midlife is meno-pause. It is the only time of live when humans can become eternal. MENO = I remain as in "I become eternal."

Originally Posted by Chili

It can go both ways can it not?

Our faculty of reason is not us but is just a condition of being that belongs to the being, like red hair, or perversion.

Originally Posted by dmarker

Don't put much stock in numerology.

It was a big cult in Damascus when Paul fell and cracked his head. Mithra's b-day was on Dec 25, not Jesus. Jesus was born closer to spring. Mithra was also born from a virgin and died for our sins.

Menopause is when women cease being fertile. Mid life in humanity? We've got around 30,000 years to go then.

Originally Posted by anders

dmarker,

I agree with you. Just a few more details:

I am not impressed by Revelations, but it should never the less be noted that Chili's quote "man" is seriously misleading. It is "a man", so it can't refer to mankind.

Mithraism didn't reach Scandinavia, so here, Christians took over the Yuletide mid-winter sacrifice. It is still heavily centered on eating and parties...

And Chili, your inventing a new meaning for an established word isn't likely to convince or impress anybody.

Originally Posted by Chili

But Paul never cracked his head and did not even ride a horse except his own ego. I pay no attention to numerology but the numbers 2 and 5 display an inversion of faith and that is why the 25 is the right time for Christ to be born (hint, Jesus was never born).

No, that's just an accident that women cease to be fertile because those who never were fertile can also be affected by it. So do males, btw, but lately they call it andropause when it happens to males.

Originally Posted by Chili

It is "the man" and that makes reference to the first beast of Rev. 13. He is the redeemed man, who's mortal wound has been healed. He only knows victory and is in charge of his own destiny.

That "certain man" is from the second beast of Revelation 13 and he will be the Jesus worshipper we all know so well. He only knows defeat and wants to change the world around himself to make it a better place to live.

Not a new meaning but maybe new to you. Where I come from our mind is in charge of our body and not the other way around.