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Old 04-18-2012, 10:47 AM   #31
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And therefore, what??
It's worth noting that these verses from the prophets and psalms go unmentioned in the epistles I dare say.

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So what?? What are we doing here? And what do YOU or any other "anybody elses" think about this matter??

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Sotto Voce, how would you then interpret the fact that the epistles evoke no prophetic material or material from psalms relating to the messiah or Elijah/Baptist?

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By way of summary we find that despite many citations from the Hebrew scriptures in the epistles, indicating the author(s) were familiar with them, the usual references that we would expect to see in reference to the messiah and the messianic times are quite absent from the epistles.

If a non-historical Christ was the salvation of mankind and the author(s) of the epistles frequently cited the Hebrew scriptures, why do the authors of the epistles ignore references pointing to the messiah and Elijah in reference to the Christ?

Here is a helpful page that indicates Old Testament citations in the NT including the epistles.

http://www.bible-researcher.com/quote02.html

There are many interesting observations to be made, not the least of which that the relevant passages in Isaiah 53 usually ascribed to Jesus never appear in the epistles.

Aside from the two citations from Malachi 1 in Romans none of the epistles refer to Malachi 3 or 4, which is central to the Elijah/Baptist link in the gospels.

Romans has many other Hebrew scripture citations.

For example, the epistles have no citations from Isaiah 11 Isaiah 40, 45, 49 or Isaiah 65 regarding the messianic epoch (except for one citation of Isaiah 11 in Romans).

They invented their own concept of the Messiah, one that made sense to gentiles. A "messiah" who comes to abolish the law and the prophets, who then lies and says he's come to fulfill to the law and the prophets, would have been unthinkable to Jews. And that's all before said Messiah died like a common criminal.
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However, this does not explain why the author(s) of the epistles chose references to many different verses in the Jewish Scriptures except for verses (often skipped over) enhancing the significance of the Christ figure as the savior "seed of David" fulfillment of those same scriptures.
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