Angrillori

Which seems to indicate a non-objective standard of morality. Which is a point others have brought up too, and which I think, (IIRC) the point about slavery was brought up to address: has god's morality changed, or has "morality" morality changed.

Deal....I never saw nuthin'

Yeah! What she said!

Could be. I was typing fast, missed that. I'm not sure quite what the difference was though, probably some Hebrews not of the tribe of Israel. Descendants of Esau then?

inquisitive01

YOU simply disagree with it, because it goes against that convenience which comes with disbelief. While you're here, where's those city-jail stats, and those stats regarding those who haven't been convicted yet? Did your forget them yet again? :thumbs:

Are you commanding me to shut up, boy? What if I DON'T shut up? What are you going to do about it? Does giving command statements make you feel some type of "manly" satisfaction hiding behind your little screen? Do you get some type of sick satisfaction continually harassing people with your child-like arguments and surface-read research? Pathetic. :boohoo:

Angrillori

Please, repeat after me one million times:

The one who made the assertion bears the burden of supporting it.
The one who made the assertion bears the burden of supporting it.
The one who made the assertion bears the burden of supporting it.
The one who made the assertion bears the burden of supporting it.
The one who made the assertion bears the burden of supporting it.
The one who made the assertion bears the burden of supporting it.
The one who made the assertion bears the burden of supporting it.
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You made the assertion that we disbelieve in order to sin more, or more conveniently.

Now, being the gentleman I am, I made every effort to help you support your position.

(Aren't I nice?)

I went out searching, and searching, and searching, for something that might show patterns of behaviour for people that have different beliefs.

And, though I was trying to help, I was only able to find statistics that damaged your position. I was hoping you, the one who made the assertion in the first place would fare better, or might have had something beyond pure wild speculation to base your opinion on. Apparently I was wrong.

I'll notice you've still failed to present any evidence to support your assertion. So the score still stands:

Us: 1
You: 0

Last time I watched a soccer game, (football) the final score was 1-0. Guess who was declared the victor?

And you know what, the losing team didn't even demand that the winners score more goals...weird huh?

"Boy?" What are we, in a bad 50's movie? ROFL.

In fact, I might even quote you on that!


Well, if you don't shut up, and you don't put up, you'll look pretty silly buckaroo. You've been called out, pardner, and it's lookin' like you're yellow.

(See, now I'm making it like a western!)


Uhm, pretty much just let you go on and on, and maybe point out to the viewers at home that you've gone one more post without supporting any of your positions. The advice to put up or shut up was really for your own good. I mean, by now most folks see how you've failed to defend your position, and are starting to think you look kinda silly. I mean, you're just digging a deeper hole now...but, whatever. Your choice!

See it as advice, not commands. Or an invitation. Please, I would love to have an opportunity to change my mind. Just offer up some evidence, valid arguments or support for your poition. (That would be the 'put up' option that you skimmed over to get to the 'shut up' option...)

Well, seeing you dodge and avoid the issue for the viewers at home does provide some satisfaction. And, as I said before, you continue to amuse me. But I wouldn't call those "sick" really.

(BTW: Still us: 1, You 0. I would love for you to change it though!)

Shameless Hussy

Sure. Cultural relativity, and all that.

I have two answers for you:

1) God is constant, unchanging and eternal. As He was then, so shall He ever be. And I mean that in absolute terms, kiddo. So no, insofar as something like "morality" can be ascribed to our understanding of God, His doesn't change. Just our understanding of what He wants. But his COVENANTS with us may change, which means rules (down here) can change, as He deems.

2) The morality of the God in the OT made sense to the people who wrote it.

Which one sounds more true to you?

Right. IIRC, Israelites = tribal designation. Hebrew = ethnic designation (and the Israelites looked down on non-Israelite Hebrews). I think it goes back before Esau though. Aaron? Or someone with an A name? Oy, now I have to open that freakin' book again...

inquisitive01

Please show us the results of all your searching (and searching, and searching), so we'll know how thorough your "searching, and searching, and searching" truly was. Actually, though, you weren't trying to "help" anyone but yourself. You're the one who turned "more conveniently" into "more sinning," not I, since that would help to serve your purpose here.

Poor thing. Him was only ABLE to find what? Bet him looked REAL hard, too, huh! What disabled your "searching" anyway? A lack of time for posting here too much perhaps? All you've referred to were just some kind of (made-up perhaps?) prison stats (which, btw, I don't remember actually being presented?). Hey, where are these stats, along with all those OTHER stats I requested anyway? One cannot draw general, overall conclusions with only partial stats, can one. Well, one can if one wishes to be mistaken, of course.



Looks like a thrown "game" (uh, if that's how you see it?) to me. Hmmm, perhaps someone (other than you) thinks differently about what the true "score" (LoL!) is. :thumbs:



Well, yee-haw! Why do you care if I look silly, especially since that seems to be your main goal here anyway (making anyone who disagrees with YOUR opinions look silly, in case that went over your head)? You do tend to make things how YOU see fit to make them, so long as it's convenient for YOU. :thumbs:




Yep, sounds like a sick person to me. I would suggest therapy.




Good excuses, but there was no option in your command phrases (RE: "put up or shut up"), as you were commanding me to do one of two things. Too bad for you that I don't take commands from the likes of you who feels larger hiding behind your computer screen.




You seem to get satisfaction from thinking (or perhaps seeing, in real life?) someone suffer??? Hmmm, again I would advise therapy.

Btw, when do you find the time to study and sell cars (your post times, from your nearly-30 postings yesterday, "suggest" otherwise I'm afraid, but whatever!) . . . in your sleep?

Yep, you should have taken the PlayStation advice. :wave: :thumbs:

Vorkosigan

This thread has degenerated into a pointless mudslinging match. I am locking it pending further discussion.