Chili

Likewise spin but I just can't see how you people can get so worked up over nothing.

Amaleq13

Why would God choose to give "legitimacy" to such a "big deal" by having it take place unobserved?

Seems like more legitimacy would be given to such a big deal by making sure the resurrection was directly witnessed by tons of people.

Steven Carr

If Jesus was divine, how could Jesus have had the wrath of God upon Him?

Why would God forsake somebody in their hour of need, especially somebody who had a perfect relationship with God?

judge

There appear to be more than a few instances of mistranslations most very small.


Yes into the fourth century there were some theological differences between the "nestorians" in persia and the mainly greek speaking byzantine believers. As a result although the eastern peshitta was always around the Aramaic speaking byzantine believers retranslated the NT from greek into aramaic to bring it more into line theologically.
From memory Rabbula did one, Thomas of harkel did another, Philoxus (?) did one as well. however there does not seem to be any clear evidence that the eastern peshitta is from the greek. It appears to be the other way around.

Actually it is all Aramaic, no need to mention hebrew.

French Prometheus

Evidence for that?
The earliest known NT manuscripts are in Greek and predate the earliest known Aramaic manuscripts by about 200 years.

Very small? How do we know that they're all very small? We may not have spotted all the mistranslations. As I said, if some of Jesus's words were mistranslated into Greek then that casts a doubt on the other translated passages.

Is Eli ("my God") Aramaic?

lulay

none of you taken the trouble to look at my Allegro references?!

from where i am stting, you seem to love wearing blinkers about such 'problems' as this. maybe this is what turns you on...god knows

spin

I'm impressed that you still have a copy of Mushroom, the book which made Allegro a joke in the scholarly community. Allegro was a good responsible Hebrew scholar, until he was ostracized by the scrolls squad, which ruined his career. The Mushroom didn't help things much other than his pocket. It's the sort of free association one finds with people trying to convince you that the Danes are really the tribe of Dan or that the Britons were the people of the covenant (amme ha-brit).


spin

LP675

A good way to avoid being overlooked is to quote something someone has said, and take exception to all or parts of it. If you don’t challenge someone like that they won’t feel as inclined to respond to your post.

(Hmmm, thats an ugly comma in the first sentence isn’t it?)

Jeremy Pallant

As far as I am aware, the doctrine of the Trinity didn't formally become part of Church theology until the fourth century, and before then was very much a subject of controversy.

Notsri

Hi, Prometheus.

To my knowledge most scholars agree that Matthew's "Eli" represents the Hebrew original (while Mark's "Eloi" an Aramaic original), nevertheless it has been noted by others that perhaps even Matthew's represents Aramaic: the Targum to Psalm 22:1 (written in Aramaic) has "Eli."