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Old 07-19-2007, 01:22 PM   #1
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U.S. says Iraqi militant nonexistent

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In March, he was declared captured. In May, he was declared killed, and his purported corpse was displayed on state-run TV. But on Wednesday, Abu Omar Baghdadi, the supposed leader of an Al Qaeda-affiliated group in Iraq, was declared nonexistent by U.S. military officials, who said he was a fictional character created to give an Iraqi face to a foreign-run terrorist organization.

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There was no way to confirm the military's claim, which comes at a time of heightened pressure on the White House to justify keeping U.S. troops in Iraq. Critics of the Bush administration say the president has been trying to do so by linking Bin Laden's Al Qaeda terrorist network to the conflict in Iraq, even though the organization had no substantial presence here until after the U.S.-led invasion of March 2003.

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Defense Ministry spokesman Mohammed Askari rejected the U.S. assertion, insisting that Baghdadi is real. "Al-Baghdadi is wanted and pursued. We know many things about him, and we even have his picture," Askari said. However, he said he could not release a photograph or additional information because it could jeopardize attempts to capture Baghdadi.
Compare and contrast with 1st c. Palestine.
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In March, he was declared captured. In May, he was declared killed, and his purported corpse was displayed on state-run TV. But on Wednesday, Abu Omar Baghdadi, the supposed leader of an Al Qaeda-affiliated group in Iraq, was declared nonexistent by U.S. military officials, who said he was a fictional character created to give an Iraqi face to a foreign-run terrorist organization.

. . .

There was no way to confirm the military's claim, which comes at a time of heightened pressure on the White House to justify keeping U.S. troops in Iraq. Critics of the Bush administration say the president has been trying to do so by linking Bin Laden's Al Qaeda terrorist network to the conflict in Iraq, even though the organization had no substantial presence here until after the U.S.-led invasion of March 2003.

. . .

Defense Ministry spokesman Mohammed Askari rejected the U.S. assertion, insisting that Baghdadi is real. "Al-Baghdadi is wanted and pursued. We know many things about him, and we even have his picture," Askari said. However, he said he could not release a photograph or additional information because it could jeopardize attempts to capture Baghdadi.
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So are you saying that Al-Baghdadi is currently on his way to exile in France with his family? :Cheeky:

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Old 07-19-2007, 01:41 PM   #3
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In March, he was declared captured. In May, he was declared killed, and his purported corpse was displayed on state-run TV. But on Wednesday, Abu Omar Baghdadi, the supposed leader of an Al Qaeda-affiliated group in Iraq, was declared nonexistent by U.S. military officials, who said he was a fictional character created to give an Iraqi face to a foreign-run terrorist organization.

. . .

There was no way to confirm the military's claim, which comes at a time of heightened pressure on the White House to justify keeping U.S. troops in Iraq. Critics of the Bush administration say the president has been trying to do so by linking Bin Laden's Al Qaeda terrorist network to the conflict in Iraq, even though the organization had no substantial presence here until after the U.S.-led invasion of March 2003.

. . .

Defense Ministry spokesman Mohammed Askari rejected the U.S. assertion, insisting that Baghdadi is real. "Al-Baghdadi is wanted and pursued. We know many things about him, and we even have his picture," Askari said. However, he said he could not release a photograph or additional information because it could jeopardize attempts to capture Baghdadi.
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Are you suggesting a parallel between Jesus and Baghdadi or are you suggesting a parallel between Jesus skeptics and US military officials?
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Old 07-19-2007, 01:47 PM   #4
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I didn't exist once, but I got better.
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No, *I* am the dread Pirate Roberts!
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Are you suggesting a parallel between Jesus and Baghdadi or are you suggesting a parallel between Jesus skeptics and US military officials?
Explore the implications of either these parallels.

There is speculation that Jesus was a military leader who was cleaned up and turned into a pacifist. Perhaps Jesus was an imaginary leader who was cleaned up and turned into a pacifist?

Would a faction of a Jewish nationalist movement have invented a military leader for some purpose?

If the US Military are the skeptics, notice that a charge of non-existence does not seem to have fazed anyone in Iraq, either in Al Qaeda or the Iraqi government.
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The Roman Military was not obligated to provide a nightly set of upbeat quotes to Fox News.

No wonder they conquered the world. Fewer distactions.
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Who else? Adam, Eve, Cain, Abel, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, and possibly David.
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Well I'm Brian, and so is my wife.

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Who else? Adam, Eve, Cain, Abel, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, and possibly David.
in including david are you also including all those that are claimed to be descended from him, in other words the entire jewish royal line.
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