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Killer Mike · 08-25-2005, 02:25 AM

I was watching the news last night and they were reporting on a new study just published in JAMA or the New England Journal of Medicine (I cant remember off hand).

Their conclusions were that a fetus does not have the capacity to feel pain until the 7th month gestation.

I took embryology in college. Glial cell migration takes 6-7 months and the nervous system is not "complete" until that time.

These anti-abortion protestors have no idea of what they are talking about. They equate a fetus as equal to a human being. Some even go as far as to equate an embryo with one!

post tenebras lux · 08-25-2005, 02:53 AM

Here's a link to a BBC article on it.

spin · 08-25-2005, 05:37 AM

Ummm, moderators, we have a cuckoo.

spin

Amaleq13 · 08-25-2005, 10:19 AM

I know just the tree...swoosh

Toto · 08-25-2005, 12:16 PM

News story

Quote:

The sponsor of the proposed federal fetal pain legislation, Sen. Sam Brownback, R-Kan., says he's prepared for "a robust debate" on his measure in light of the new review.

He said Wednesday's JAMA report "seems to me to fly in the face of common experience and common sense."

Brownback, often mentioned as a potential presidential candidate in 2008, thinks discussing fetal pain is one way to curb abortions without making them illegal.

"I'm pro-life and if a woman decides not to abort her fetus with this information, that would certainly be fine by me," Brownback said.

CitizenZero · 08-25-2005, 02:10 PM

Pubmed Link

Lee SJ et al Fetal pain: a systematic multidisciplinary review of the evidence. JAMA. 2005 Aug 24;294(8):947-54.

Coragyps · 08-25-2005, 02:22 PM

And the Associated Press reports that the Editor-in-Chief of the journal - and that's JAMA, not the Journal of the Medical Society of Gotebo, Oklahoma - has received "dozens of "horrible, vindictive" messages" from abortion opponents. And she's an anti-abortion Catholic herself.
One linky.

Ghost Of Lectricity · 08-25-2005, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Sen. Sam Brownback, R-Kan.

He said Wednesday's JAMA report "seems to me to fly in the face of common experience and common sense."

I'm eager to here Sen Brownback detail his feelings of pain while a fetus. I am also looking forward to Bill Frist using is expert medical knowledge to describe what life was like when he was in the womb. Never let science get in the way of opinion, that's what I always say...

08-25-2005, 02:25 AM	#1
Killer Mike Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,033	Does A Fetus Feel Pain? I was watching the news last night and they were reporting on a new study just published in JAMA or the New England Journal of Medicine (I cant remember off hand). Their conclusions were that a fetus does not have the capacity to feel pain until the 7th month gestation. I took embryology in college. Glial cell migration takes 6-7 months and the nervous system is not "complete" until that time. These anti-abortion protestors have no idea of what they are talking about. They equate a fetus as equal to a human being. Some even go as far as to equate an embryo with one!

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08-25-2005, 02:53 AM	#2
post tenebras lux Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Republic and Canton of Geneva Posts: 5,756	Here's a link to a BBC article on it.

08-25-2005, 05:37 AM	#3
spin Contributor Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: nowhere Posts: 15,747	Ummm, moderators, we have a cuckoo. spin

08-25-2005, 10:19 AM	#4
Amaleq13 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Eagle River, Alaska Posts: 7,816	I know just the tree...swoosh

08-25-2005, 02:10 PM	#6
CitizenZero Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Zealand Posts: 49	Pubmed Link Lee SJ et al Fetal pain: a systematic multidisciplinary review of the evidence. JAMA. 2005 Aug 24;294(8):947-54.

08-25-2005, 02:22 PM	#7
Coragyps Veteran Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Snyder,Texas,USA Posts: 4,411	And the Associated Press reports that the Editor-in-Chief of the journal - and that's JAMA, not the Journal of the Medical Society of Gotebo, Oklahoma - has received "dozens of "horrible, vindictive" messages" from abortion opponents. And she's an anti-abortion Catholic herself. One linky.

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