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Old 12-15-2006, 05:17 AM   #1
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I'm searching for the verse where Jesus says to bring people tp him and kill them in front of him.
I scanned through the NT yesterday looking for it and actually ended up reading all of Revelations. Three references to a sword in his mouth. Wow!
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Luke 19 (New American Standard Bible)

11 While they were listening to these things, Jesus went on to tell a parable, because He was near Jerusalem, and they supposed that the kingdom of God was going to appear immediately. 12 So He said, "A nobleman went to a distant country to receive a kingdom for himself, and then return. 13 "And he called ten of his slaves, and gave them ten minas and said to them, 'Do business with this until I come back.' 14 "But his citizens hated him and sent a delegation after him, saying, 'We do not want this man to reign over us.' 15 "When he returned, after receiving the kingdom, he ordered that these slaves, to whom he had given the money, be called to him so that he might know what business they had done. 16 "The first appeared, saying, 'Master, your mina has made ten minas more.' 17 "And he said to him, 'Well done, good slave, because you have been faithful in a very little thing, you are to be in authority over ten cities.' 18 "The second came, saying, 'Your mina, master, has made five minas.' 19 "And he said to him also, 'And you are to be over five cities.' 20 "Another came, saying, 'Master, here is your mina, which I kept put away in a handkerchief; 21 for I was afraid of you, because you are an exacting man; you take up what you did not lay down and reap what you did not sow.' 22 "He said to him, 'By your own words I will judge you, you worthless slave. Did you know that I am an exacting man, taking up what I did not lay down and reaping what I did not sow? 23 'Then why did you not put my money in the bank, and having come, I would have collected it with interest?' 24 "Then he said to the bystanders, 'Take the mina away from him and give it to the one who has the ten minas.' 25 "And they said to him, 'Master, he has ten minas already.' 26 "I tell you that to everyone who has, more shall be given, but from the one who does not have, even what he does have shall be taken away. 27 "But these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slay them in my presence." 28 After He had said these things, He was going on ahead, going up to Jerusalem.

This is still part of the parable; the nobleman is talking about the people in verse 14.

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So Jesus tells this story then goes into town and trashes the temple.
My question would be, is Jesus the nobleman? If so, is he telling his followers to literally kill his enemies?
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So Jesus tells this story then goes into town and trashes the temple.
My question would be, is Jesus the nobleman? If so, is he telling his followers to literally kill his enemies?
From what I've read, not at all. It's a parable and as such it's dealing with analogies, not straight commands. I found this list of analogies;

ANALOGIES IN THE PARABLE

The nobleman = Jesus Christ our Lord
His going into the far country = his ascension to God in heaven
His receiving of a kingdom = reigning over the church
His citizens refusing him = secular Israel's rejection
The ambassage they sent = "We have no king but Caesar."
The ten servants = all of the servants of Christ
"Trade ye ... till I come" = the faithful work of Christians
The ten pounds = the trust God gives to every man
The one who gained ten = the faithful Christian
The one who gained five = the faithful Christian of less ability
The one who hid his pound = the wicked and unfaithful Christian
Ten cities and five cities = different kinds of employment in heaven
Taking away the pound = punishment of unfaithful servants
Slaying his enemies = judgment of Jerusalem as a type of eternal judgment
The return of the nobleman = the Second Coming of Christ
Extended absence of nobleman = the long period of time before the Second Coming

They come from Searchgodsword.org which, despite the hokey title seems to line up with what I was reading on other sites. Apparently the story may also allude
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to the journey of Archaleus to Rome in 4BCE to assure his succession to his father Herod's throne; his mission was opposed by a delegation of leaders from Judea (Josephus Ant. 17-9.4; 17.10).
From my Oxford NRSV.
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