KNRO

This is probably a ridiculous question, but a popular Muslim geologist on Youtube claims that Mecca is the first raised land on Earth (He also claims that it's the center of Earth AND the universe, but let's not go there). He claims that Earth was once 100% covered in oceans, and by volcanic eruptions, the land was raised, and the first land to raise is that of Mecca.

Was ancient Earth at any point completely covered with oceans? What's the most ancient land, if there is such a thing? Here is the subtitled Youtube video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXXaxpVi74Y

I was trying to answer the first question by reading ancient history of earth, A bit of research showed that oceans formed after the earth's temperature settled down a bit, but it never said anything about water covering ALL Earth (that is, everything is submerged) or if there was always a raised land/continent since the beginning of its formation.

J842P

Well there is one hypothesis that claims the Earth was completely covered in water (in the form of ice) at one point. It's called the Snowball Earth Hypothesis. I'm not sure about liquid water. Either way, I'd like to see the evidence that Mecca was the first land mass - I'm pretty sure he has none.

Toto

I think you might get a better discussion in either the Evolution-Creationism forum or Science and Skepticism. Let me ask around.

Clivedurdle

Incoming Fatwa on the Saudi Geological Survey!

http://www.sgs.org.sa/index.cfm?sec=16&page


There is some old stuff - 3 billion years - but I though the oldest are in Australia and Canada - ex British so therefore our gods are right!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldest_rock

premjan

Oldest bedrock found in Canada

Toto

Moving to Evolution-Creationism

skepticalbip

I don't really understand why you are bothering to research those claims unless you think that maybe they could be true. Those claims are no different than the claims you hear from fundamentalist Christian creationists just a different religion's view. There is nothing you can post in response that will have a chance of changing their belief.

Civil1z@tion

Probably true but at least we'll have evidence should we encounter such ridiculous claims in rl and thereby be able to hold our own in an argument.

anthrosciguy

But you can't because they won't listen. Instead, ask them for actual proof. They're making the claim, and it's on them to prove it. Otherwise you're just running around like their dog after a stick; no matter how many times you fetch it, they just throw it again. Sometimes they throw a new one, sometimes they throw two, or six, at a time. You'll never keep up. Don't be a dog, or at least surprise them by being a talking, thoughtful dog who watches them throw the stick and asks "Where's the reasoning behind that piece of performace art?"

Regallo

the Hadith is saying " the KAABA" was khashaa not mecca. I mean even the most traditionalist muslims understand that the Kaaba was built , not came out from water.