Sheshbazzar

Did you read Markúsarguðspjall 14:1?

hjalti

What's that supposed to show? I know that easter morning is "páskar", and I'm pretty sure that you don't know any Icelandic.

Sheshbazzar

You will have to take up that discussion with two thousand years of Bible translators, translating these texts into the various languages.
Notice for example, hjalti's translation of the Icelandic text back in POST #142 .........
I didn't have any say in how that Icelandic text was composed, or what it conveys into the Icelandic language, nor in how hjalti translated it to English.
Argue with them if you will.

eta
Thinking about it, normally when I am reading from Hebrew text, I think in Hebrew idioms, I seldom even read/think in terms of any English words, unless I am actually engaged in preparing an English translation of the texts. then I'll think in terms of the best or most appropriated English words to express what I am receiving from the text. Other than that, when I read Hebrew בן אדם is simply בן אדם to me, with all of its idiomatic connotations that I am aware of in play.
I would think that if you regularly read Hebrew, that the same would be true for you.
I see no point in belaboring all of the possible English translations, as any that are at all accurate, are all inherent within the original term.



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Sheshbazzar

Translate it.

spin

I wonder how Shesh would translate páskaegg.

spin

I don't have to. I'm working with the original and being literal with it. You can depend on other people's errors as much as you like, but that won't help you. If you want to be literal, then "son of man" is inadequate, isn't it?

hjalti

Easter.

Now, you may have answered this earlier in this thread, but is it your position that we should translate idioms word-for-word? So if you were translating "She kicket the bucket." into another language, wouldn't you either use an idiom with the same meaning or just "She died." rather than having a text that would seem to mean that some woman literally used her foot to kick a bucket?

spin

You seem to be doing what Shesh is doing, ie overgeneralizing. The use of "easter" here is inappropriate. I'd be willing to bet that páskar has two meanings, the historical one of pesach and the christian devolved easter. In the new testament it has to be pesach, as easter had not been instituted by the church.

If you find páskar in Lev 23:5 will you still translate it as 'easter" or "passover" as all English translations do?

hjalti

Right, I admit that I made a mistake when i was hastily translating. And you are correct, unlike english, we have the same word for the jewish and the christian holiday.

hjalti

All? (...off to search for some obscure, old translation :Cheeky