FRDB Archives

Freethought & Rationalism Archive

The archives are read only.


Go Back   FRDB Archives > Archives > Religion (Closed) > Biblical Criticism & History
Welcome, Peter Kirby.
You last visited: Today at 03:12 PM

 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 01-26-2013, 12:13 PM   #61
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Auburn ca
Posts: 4,269
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Toto View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by outhouse View Post

No one has stated "appeal to authority" can be used blindly.
But you do appear to be using the appeal to authority blindly.

You have already admitted this cannot be used here.

So I dont excpect a different answer from you no matter how I have used this term.
outhouse is offline  
Old 01-26-2013, 12:16 PM   #62
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Auburn ca
Posts: 4,269
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chili View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by outhouse View Post



Then why would anyone consider her a authority. She obviously wasnt one.


No one has stated "appeal to authority" can be used blindly.
But 28 Honorary PhD's and later the defence they made on her behalf shows that the experts in that field still show her an authority,

Just pointing at a danger, that's all.

I understand this, and would agree.


She would not be a expert within theology.

She would only be an expert in certain areas of her study. Im sure while much of her work was quoted as sub par, much would not be.
outhouse is offline  
Old 01-26-2013, 01:19 PM   #63
Banned
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Alberta
Posts: 11,885
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by outhouse View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chili View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by outhouse View Post



Then why would anyone consider her a authority. She obviously wasnt one.


No one has stated "appeal to authority" can be used blindly.
But 28 Honorary PhD's and later the defence they made on her behalf shows that the experts in that field still show her an authority,

Just pointing at a danger, that's all.

I understand this, and would agree.


She would not be a expert within theology.

She would only be an expert in certain areas of her study. Im sure while much of her work was quoted as sub par, much would not be.
Because "tale-tale-telling" is their religion or what we call religion in their primitive mythology, just as sophistry was in Plato's Academy where they were 'look-alikes' as well, that we call "Christians. In this sense did M. M. not even understand that she was looking at religion as a Anthropologist, which here then is the hight of ignorance by the experts in the field.
Chili is offline  
Old 01-26-2013, 02:38 PM   #64
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Sweden
Posts: 2,812
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by outhouse View Post

This post has everything to do with education and knowledge, and those that are forced to deny it, because it goes against their uneducated opinions.

:realitycheck:
What. Are. You. Talking. About? That doesnt make sence.
Juma is offline  
Old 01-26-2013, 02:49 PM   #65
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Auburn ca
Posts: 4,269
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Juma View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by outhouse View Post

This post has everything to do with education and knowledge, and those that are forced to deny it, because it goes against their uneducated opinions.

:realitycheck:
What. Are. You. Talking. About? That doesnt make sence.

Let. Me. Spell. It. Out. For. You.


Most mythers do not have a real education on the subject. The mythers who do have a education, do not agree with each other, and oppose the people who are educated on the topics at hand.




There is intellectually responsible research, and there are those that wing it based on ignorance.

Which camp you belong to is your choice.
outhouse is offline  
Old 01-26-2013, 03:12 PM   #66
Contributor
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Los Angeles area
Posts: 40,549
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by outhouse View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Juma View Post

What. Are. You. Talking. About? That doesnt make sence.
Let. Me. Spell. It. Out. For. You.

Most mythers do not have a real education on the subject. The mythers who do have a education, do not agree with each other, and oppose the people who are educated on the topics at hand.


There is intellectually responsible research, and there are those that wing it based on ignorance.

Which camp you belong to is your choice.
It is not the case that there are only two camps. There are as many opinions as there are scholars, or more.

The so called intellectually responsible research has not led to any real consensus. No one agrees with anyone else about much of anything.
Toto is offline  
Old 01-26-2013, 03:29 PM   #67
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Auburn ca
Posts: 4,269
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Toto View Post
so called intellectually responsible research has not led to any real consensus. No one agrees with anyone else about much of anything.


Well that simply isnt true.


There is consencus in many areas.


Basically your stating to remain ignorant, because no one is educated or knowledgeable on any subject, because there are disagreements in scholarships on certain topics.


I'll take a educated opinion, over a uneducated opinion, and that is the crux concerning "appeal to authority"
outhouse is offline  
Old 01-26-2013, 03:32 PM   #68
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Auburn ca
Posts: 4,269
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Toto View Post
It is not the case that there are only two camps. There are as many opinions as there are scholars, or more.


When the new forum comes up, we will so how long uneducated opinions "cut it" with those trained in historical methods, or simply put, more educated in this area.


When it comes to educated and uneducated, there are two camps. But only in that context.
outhouse is offline  
Old 01-26-2013, 03:35 PM   #69
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Auburn ca
Posts: 4,269
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mountainman View Post

Could you therefore point me to an authority of the definitions of the terms "Biblical Historian" and "Ancient Historian"?



.

All nonsense. The field is much broader then the opologetics you falesly claim. :constern01:


From wiki


Definition (of bible studies)
The Oxford Handbook of Biblical Studies defines the field as a set of various, and in some cases independent disciplines for the study of the collection of ancient texts generally known as the Bible.[1] These disciplines include but are not limited to archaeology, Egyptology, textual criticism, linguistics, history, sociology and theology.[1]


No where does it state internet bloggers are the utmost authority
outhouse is offline  
Old 01-26-2013, 04:14 PM   #70
Contributor
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Falls Creek, Oz.
Posts: 11,192
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by outhouse View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by mountainman View Post

Could you therefore point me to an authority of the definitions of the terms "Biblical Historian" and "Ancient Historian"?



.

All nonsense. The field is much broader then the opologetics you falesly claim. :constern01:


From wiki


Definition (of bible studies)
The Oxford Handbook of Biblical Studies defines the field as a set of various, and in some cases independent disciplines for the study of the collection of ancient texts generally known as the Bible.[1] These disciplines include but are not limited to archaeology, Egyptology, textual criticism, linguistics, history, sociology and theology.[1]
Thanks very much for researching an authoritative definition of "Biblical History".

I have taken the liberty of highlighting one of the fields mentioned in the definition - THEOLOGY.

Now we are almost half way there.

Would it be too much to ask now that you cite an authority on the definition of "Ancient History"?

Once this is established we can make a comparison between the definitions of the two fields.

Thank you outhouse.
mountainman is offline  
 

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 10:33 PM.

Top

This custom BB emulates vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.