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http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/1681
If Mark 6:3 has an alternative version in Papyrus 45 where Joseph is the carpenter, which would be the version known by the person called Origen, Origen was unaware of the now canonical version when challenged by "Celsus." Interestingly enough, how could "Origen" not know about something as straightforward as the Lord's Prayer in Mark 11 especially if the Four Gospels established by "Irenaeus" before him?!

In any event here would be the ostensibly famous citation of the background of Jesus in the interior of the gospel sources leaving aside the nativity stories:

Mark 6:
3 Isn’t this the carpenter['s son]? Isn’t this Mary’s son and the brother of James, Joseph,[a] Judas and Simon? Aren’t his sisters here with us?” (With "the carpenter" alone adding in "Mary's son" sounds better because otherwise why would Jesus be identified separately as "the carpenter's son" and then "Mary's son"?)

Matthew 13:
55 Is not this the carpenter’s son? Is not His mother called Mary, and His brothers, James and Joseph and Simon and Judas? (In this version they are not only indentifying the anonymous father but the fact that Mary is more important because she is named).

Luke 4:
22 All spoke well of him and were amazed at the gracious words that came from his lips. “Isn’t this Joseph’s son?” they asked.

John 6:
42 They were saying, "Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? How can he now say, `I have come down from heaven?'