FRDB Archives

Freethought & Rationalism Archive

The archives are read only.


Go Back   FRDB Archives > Archives > Religion (Closed) > Biblical Criticism & History
Welcome, Peter Kirby.
You last visited: Yesterday at 03:12 PM

 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 01-14-2009, 09:18 AM   #11
Banned
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: England, Portsmouth
Posts: 5,108
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger Pearse View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dagda View Post


Galen and the works of Archimedes obviously were? (etc)
Sorry, but would you stop posting in this thread? - I have a real question here about a real text, to which I want to get an answer, and your posts are an unhelpful distraction (sorry!).

I'm glad that you are interested in that series on BBC4 by Jim Khalili, about science and islam, which I've been watching too.

NB: Galen and Archimedes are Greek authors, not Latin.

All the best,

Roger Pearse
Are you trying to intimate that Muslim scholars cannot translate from latin to greek or vise a versa? Because it would seem so. And what I am talking about anyway is that they can trade latin and greek books from the Byzantines by way of Rome and other countries. Then all religious texts were written in latin, many peoples spoke latin, and so it would not have been hard to either translate from greek to Latin or Latin to greek and or vise a versa. I think you are missing the great cultural explosion of the Arabs in the Late first millenia, they probably copied and read all sorts of works in the vulgate or Greek or other. Why do you think they translated the Egyptian language into Arabic partially?

I'm surprised you haven't acknowledged the effect of knowledge dissemination by trade either. Do you think great works were not copied into other languages then? or that Muslim scholars were not adept linguists?
The Dagda is offline  
Old 01-14-2009, 01:48 PM   #12
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Birmingham UK
Posts: 4,876
Default

This does seem to be referring to the Venerable Bede Seven Wonders of the World by Bede
Quote:
The second is the Light-house of Alexandria, which was founded on four glass arches, twenty paces deep
beneath the sea. The wonder is, how such large arches
could be made, or how they could be conveyed without
breaking ; how the foundations, which are cemented to-
gether above, could adhere to them, or how the cement
could stand firm under the water ; and why the arches are
not broken, and why the foundations cast in above do
not slip off.
One problem is that the work may well be by pseudo-Bede rather than Bede himself see the seven wonders

Andrew Criddle

ETA pseudo-Bede appears to have a specific meaning (a writer some centuries after Bede) which is not relevant here. I should have said that the work may be apocryphal and not really by Bede.
andrewcriddle is offline  
Old 01-15-2009, 01:14 AM   #13
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: N/A
Posts: 4,370
Default

Thank you so much for this, Andrew. An interesting book: "The life of Bede -- The book of the life and miracles of St. Cuthbert, bishop of Lindisfarne -- Lives of the holy abbots of Weremouth and Jarrow -- Life of the holy confessor Saint Felix -- Life of Saint Vedast, bishop of Arras -- Letters of the Venerable Bede -- Of the seven wonders of the world -- The book of holy places -- Appendix: A narrative of the translation of the body of St. Cuthbert from Lindisfarne to Durham -- A chronicle of the six ages of the world." Latin text here.

The list given by Agapius is similar to, but not the same as that in (ps.) Bede; but Agapius doesn't say that the whole list is by (ps.) Bede.
Roger Pearse is offline  
Old 01-15-2009, 03:20 AM   #14
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: N/A
Posts: 4,370
Default

I've posted a query in Hugoye, where I know some Arabists will see it.
Roger Pearse is offline  
 

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:17 AM.

Top

This custom BB emulates vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.