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unknown4 · 02-26-2005, 01:48 AM

I've read that supposedly 666 had no special significance in Judaism, yet there are two passages I believe in the "Tanakh" which refer to Solomon as receiving 666 talents of gold. I think there's also a passage referring to the number of descendants of a person being 666, while another passage referring to the same person says 665 descendants. Anyway, I have my doubts that 666 didn't have a meaning in more ancient times, even before the author(s) of Revelation. I think in Kabbalah 666 has a particular meaning. Anyway, any info is appreciated. Thanks.

Chris Weimer · 02-26-2005, 03:01 AM

Either Nero Caesar or Lateinos, take your pick.

JoyJuice · 02-26-2005, 06:47 PM

Nero Caesar 54-68 AD

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The mark of the beast 666 in Revelation 13:18 is probably the best know Bible Code. This is called gematria meaning "manipulation with numbers". In both Hebrew and Greek as well as other languages, letters of the alphabet were used as numbers. So names had a certain numerical value. "Nero Caesar" transliterated into the Hebrew from the Greek (Neron Kaiser) adds up to exactly 666 in Hebrew. N=50, R=200, W=6, N=50 plus Q=100, S=60, R=200 totals 666. This spelling of Nero Caesar was found in the discovery of an Aramaic document in Wadi Murabba`at (BASOR 170, 65). The Latin form of "Nero Caesar" when transliterated into Hebrew adds up to 616. This most likely explains the textual variant in Revelation 13:18 with the number 616. It should also be noted that the Greek word for "Beast" when transliterated back into Hebrew adds up to 666. Ancient writers referred to Nero as a "beast" (See Philostratus Vit. Apoll. 4.38; Sib. Or. 5.343; 8.157). For more detailed commentary see Word Biblical Commentary: Revelation 6-16 by David E. Aune. See more details about the Book of Revelation.

02-26-2005, 01:48 AM	#1
unknown4 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Earth Posts: 80	Another gematria related question: 666 I've read that supposedly 666 had no special significance in Judaism, yet there are two passages I believe in the "Tanakh" which refer to Solomon as receiving 666 talents of gold. I think there's also a passage referring to the number of descendants of a person being 666, while another passage referring to the same person says 665 descendants. Anyway, I have my doubts that 666 didn't have a meaning in more ancient times, even before the author(s) of Revelation. I think in Kabbalah 666 has a particular meaning. Anyway, any info is appreciated. Thanks.

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Chris Weimer Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: none Posts: 9,879	Either Nero Caesar or Lateinos, take your pick.

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