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Old 09-27-2009, 08:59 AM   #101
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[God] can either make you happy or miserable, that is your choice.
Choice does not have anything to do with it since God even attacked devout Christians with Hurricane Katrina, not to mention innocent animals.
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Oh yeah, but those Christian's weren't real Christians like Hymn singer here is, you know.
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. . God even attacked devout Christians with Hurricane Katrina, not to mention innocent animals.
HAARP did it, not G-d
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Oh yeah, but those Christian's weren't real Christians like Hymn singer here is, you know.
Yeah, real christians shouldn't have to go through any trials such as going through a hurricane. .
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Choice does not have anything to do with it since God even attacked devout Christians with Hurricane Katrina, not to mention innocent animals.
New Orleans was a cesspool of evil and filth. Gang wars, rapes, murders, drug dealers on every street corner, not to mention mardi gras celebrations that usually are involved with girls showing nudity and sheer ignorance to the laws of YHWH. I think Los Angeles is next on the hit-list. A tsunami will destroy California off the map.

The human race is about the reap what we sow.

The increase of natural disasters, not to mention the intensity of hurricanes and earthquakes have increased. This is all signs of the times.

Scientists confirm the Yellowstone volcano has been active in the past few years. If that erupts, people in Russia will hear it. Not to mention most of the Mid-West and Eastern United States will be covered in 3 feet of ashes.

This will be the wrath of God laying his vengeance on a country that has gone corrupt. President Barack Obama is trying to divide Jerusalem. Obama is going to anger the LORD. And everyone will pay for his mistake. Yes, even Christians..
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New Orleans was a cesspool of evil and filth.
But many people who lived in New Orleans were devout, faithful Christians. Why did God punish them too?
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Old 09-27-2009, 01:06 PM   #107
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The human race is about the reap what we sow.
No, thousands of years ago, God was already injuring and killing humans by the millions.

Is it your position that every bad thing that happens to humans is because they make God angry, and that every good thing that happens to humans is a reward from God?
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New Orleans was a cesspool of evil and filth. Gang wars, rapes, murders, drug dealers on every street corner....
Sorry, but aren't these the people that Jesus liked to hang out with? You forgot to mention fishermen though, another of Jesus' kinks. Is Jesus OK with pot farms and meth labs, they infest the bible states (also highest porn consumption per capita, not to mention teen pregnancies and divorce).

Why wipe out Satan-town if the whole seven seal thing is going to blow now anyway? I love moral self-righteousness.


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PS Have you heard of the expression "jump the shark"?
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IBIH...just curious...

You believe you are living in the "end of days".

Do you believe Christ will return within your lifetime?
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What about them? God said you shall not worship other gods over me. That was a command, not a suggestion.
Reread the Torah - the Commandments were for YHWH's Chosen People, not other nations. And, that is not what they were killed for - the Plagues came (in the myth) because YHWH wanted to show his power off, by deliberately hardening Pharoah's heart so that he would not let the Israelites go until there was blood shed. Way to twist things around (again)
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God commanded his people to over power evil pagan nations. God said wipe them out! These people were vicious and evil. They were burning their own children on the stake in praise of the pagan idols. YHWH knew the pagans were praising false gods, and they were taking their innocent children with them.
I guess you've missed the fact that the ancient Canaanites/Israelites probably practiced child sacrifice. The myth of Abraham and Isaac was used as a reason why the practice was no longer done, but IIRC there are remnants hidden within the other stories. Besides, such tales are often told about ones enemies as a way of making them less human, and therefore fit only for slaughter. Early Christians ate human flesh and had sex with their relatives, according to early "eyewitnesses," so maybe they all need to be taken with a grain of salt.
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I'm trying to show you what the bible literally translates into. You are calling me a liar. I have absolutely nothing to benefit by lying to you.
I can't speak for him, but we can use your own words back at you "You are not lying, but you are not telling the truth either."


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First of all, that's the furthest thing from PROOF I've heard of, but I'll let you have that. Because in doing so, you will have to accept that we have NEVER felt his presence within us. Even those of us, like me, who were Christians for many years.
Before I heard this Christian song on the radio, I didn't even know christian music existed. But the second I heard it, I was convinced this was a sign from God to convert. I'm having a hard time believing you were a Christian. A true follower of Jesus will not walk away from his Shepherd. Somewhere along the way you walked off course, and you lost focus of the Savior.

You could melt the skin from my bones, and it would be less painful than walking away from Christ.

It's awesome that a song on the radio has my soul on fire for Christ!!

Before that fateful day, I was a rebellious and ignorant fool.

People would discuss religion, and I would say don't discuss that garbage in front of me..

But something stepped in and took control of my life..

I can't explain it into words.


In other words, the Kirk Cameron Defense.
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