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Old 04-12-2005, 11:24 AM   #1
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Default Reason must prevail is Joyce . . .

. . . but he left religion and therefore would say that.

Magdalene was Eve who left Eden with Adam (here now crucified as the human nature of Joseph), to gather desirables outside of Eden. This is how they were the rational identity of the animal man and thus took care of the Tree of Knowledge "along the road-dust of the sun" = the light of common day = the faculty of reason. With Adam crucified there is no one left but Magdalene to be the favorite disciple and be the queen of Earth but, alas, without the recognition of heaven as heaven on earth. This would mean that Joseph, who in the end is the mind wherein this melodrama takes place, becomes and intuitionist without any regard for religion that got him thusfar.

I would call this ungrateful and egotistic but above all not wise because beauty is retained in the city of God from where all 'good' things come. Just recognize the fact that Magdalene did not know what 'living water' was, nor did Jesus favor her in the Mary and Martha parable (where Martha was the Magdalene). I mean, she's flat and shallow but can sure 'wiggle' like a serpent and do her tricks by the dozen. Also notice that she has trouble converting sun rays into light wherefore it was dark when she arrived at the tomb while for the 'other women' it was light. In fact, she is the lady of the night as an identity of her own.

If, oth, we crown Mary queen of heaven and earth we will have John as the favorite disciple. He was a bosom buddy of Jesus born from the netherworld to say that he was born out of the 'involutional' portion of the melancholy that gave birth to Christ whom they called Jesus (John was from the celestial sea and Jesus was fire = water and spirit. The beheading of John silenced him to signify the change from involution to evolution in the mind of Joseph = reason returns to complete the race until "it is finished."

Mary was also of this generation just like Magdalene and John except that Magdalene was the maid Joseph had married and truly was his disciple now left in the dark. Actually, Magdalene was satan (Lucifer) when Jesus was tempted in the desert and refused her a number of times because he was entertained at the wedding in Cana during that time. These two events take place at the same time just as the Annunciation to Mary came across as a dream in the conscious mind of Joseph.

In favor of Magdalena being the favorite disciple is that the "sea was no longer" in the New Heaven and the New Earth of Rev. 21:1. The "sea was no longer" is equivalent to "the soul was no longer" and that points to reason prevails when the celestial sea (Mary) was taken under the care of Magdalene in the New Jerusalem (which is New because the 'sea' is added).
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The "sea was no longer" is equivalent to "the soul was no longer" and that points to reason prevails when the celestial sea (Mary) was taken under the care of Magdalene in the New Jerusalem (which is New because the 'sea' is added).
I would say that when Jesus dies the sea was finally emptied when they pierced him on the cross and water came out of his side. So when he was buried at the tomb the stone of matter(false ego/self) was moved away and the "Christ" was risen in the (new)flesh.

Just like by walking on the sea, Jesus seems to be in total knowledge of his soul, so too it is the same with the triumphal entry in the donkey, where the false ego/self(the donkey) is completely controlled by the new(yet to be rised) self and is lead triumphally into his crucifixion like a lamb to the slaughter.
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No problem, they better bleed him before they bury him.

I would say that the soul was the sea. So to walk on water is to walk on the soul = intuition only. When reason prevails we are back on dry land now one with the sea as it was in Gen. 1 before God separated the waters from the land. Notice that waters is plural and that makes it too deep for Magdalene to walk on.
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No problem, they better bleed him before they bury him.

I would say that the soul was the sea. So to walk on water is to walk on the soul = intuition only. When reason prevails we are back on dry land now one with the sea as it was in Gen. 1 before God separated the waters from the land. Notice that waters is plural and that makes it too deep for Magdalene to walk on.
Well then Moses made a great mistake didn't he? He also parted the waters and walked thru the land, so that's why he didn't get to see the promised land. It looks like he wanted to keep the treasures from Egypt by allowing the Egyptians to go thru following him. After all a house(mind) divided cannot stand but will fall.
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Well then Moses made a great mistake didn't he? He also parted the waters and walked thru the land, so that's why he didn't get to see the promised land.
He did and it was. It is the equivalent of being reborn 'Billy Graham style' and therefore from the old earth with Magdalene (reason) in charge (cf second and first beast of Rev.13). Hence the daily reinfocement of Lucifer with bible passages.
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I sometimes wonder how some people actually make it through the day.
So why do you think Jesus made reference to the children of Israel unless they were misled: "Unlike your ancestors who ate and ate, and ate some more and in the end died nonetheless." Their problem was that they failed to mature beyond the promise of eternal life no matter how many bible passages they burned: "You search the scriptures wherein you think you have eternal life . . . " (Jn.5:39-40).
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This sounds extravagant but I feel I no longer need to read anything about how to be spiritual because I feel that it's all being done for me every moment by Life.

I mean, who is going to teach me how to see and touch, how to hear and taste? Every moment there is such fulness coming through all the senses...why read anything?

What is there to learn?

For me learning, in the sense of looking for explanations or accumulating knowledge, is over. I am the explanation, I am the knowing of all this.

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Beautifully spoken..........

And isn't this who the Magdalene is?

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Their problem was that they failed to mature beyond the promise of eternal life no matter how many bible passages they burned: "You search the scriptures wherein you think you have eternal life . . . " (Jn.5:39-40).
Then I take it (IYO) the fact that his followers created even more scripture in response to the message is a sign they never really got it?
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Beautifully spoken..........

And isn't this who the Magdalene is?

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It is, and this is verse 40 of Jn.5:39-40 above: " . . . yet you are unwilling to come to me to possess that life."
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