Jack the Bodiless

She could CERTAINLY have survived without men.

She could tend goats JUST as easily as a man, fired a bow at attacking marauders just as effectively as a man, and dismbowelled an attacker almost as effectively as a man: certainly good enough to kill.

Your misogyny is showing, Ed.
Try answering the question.

Please explain why their border patrols stopped and interrogated marauders, asked them their business, and allowed them to pass if they were after UNMARRIED Hebrew women.
I assume you are hallucinating again.
...So those killed by Nazis are "more dead"? Or do they go to a lower circle of Hell?

Please explain why being killed by Nazis is worse than being killed by Hebrews.

Ed

Says me.

He is able but probably not willing given the fact we are commanded not to put Him to the test.

lpetrich

That seems to me to be an evasive response, sort of like ESP researchers claiming that ESP powers do not work when skeptics are around. If one makes far-reaching claims, one ought to be willing to submit them to critical scrutiny.

If I claim to have invented a medicine I'll call Peachtree that can cure everything from cancer to the common cold, I am willing to accept that many people will be skeptical of that and will want to see Peachtree tested.

Which is why I ask those questions above.

Ed

I looked in my Strong's Concordance but I couldn't find any of those words. Why don't you translate it for me?

lpetrich

Ed, someone who claims to know Hebrew ought at least to know the alphabet -- which ought to be enough to search Strong's Concordance with.

And now for the translation:

The Queen of Swords will enjoy exposing your foolishness for all the world to see.

I could identify the first two words in Strong's Concordance:
m-l-k-h - malkah - 04436 - queen
ch-r-b - chereb - 02719 - sword

combined in the phrase

m-l-k-t h-ch-r-b-w-t
queen-of the-swords

Jeremy Pallant

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I think we're getting a bit off-topic. The subject isn't supposed to be "Ed's knowledge of Hebrew", which he's already admitted is dependent upon Strong's Concordence.

It's supposed to be "Did God harden Pharaoh's heart and other moral quandaries?"

I agree that is a diverse subject, but it's getting personal, and that is not the aim of the Upper Fora.

Please confine yourselves to the subject at hand rather than engage in subtle flaming. In other words, please refrain from Ed-bashing.

If you wish to debate the accuracy or relevence of Strong's Concordance, please start a seperate thread.

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Jack the Bodiless

Well, I think Ed has now conceded that God DID harden Pharaoh's heart (at least, he's gone very quiet since I demonstrated that the Bible says this).

As for the rest: it seems that his only defence against other Biblical atrocities is either "yes he did that... so what?", or "no he didn't, the Hebrew says otherwise (I hope)".

Ed

Well actually he doesn't deserve ANY chances but God is gracious and gives him two.

He was probably was a skeptic about a god he couldn't see and rationalized the plagues as "natural events". Sound familiar?

Romans 1 talks about situations like that where after they repeatedly deny God, He turns them over to their sin. There is no set number but since God knows every situation perfectly some people get more chances than others.

Jack the Bodiless

No, God gives him NO chances, according to every translation of the Bible.
No, God had "hardened his heart".
Pharaoh got none, and all the other Egyptians (who were not in any way responsible for Pharaoh's conduct or decisions) got none either.

highpreistess

The civilization of ancient egypt was run by the progeny of nephilim,
and Pharoah obtained his power by enslaving the sons of men. Pharoah
was one of nine fallen angels who had taken on the flesh to rule with
absolute power over mankind. (zohar). He routinely put people to death
for little things, never mind for murder or other atrocities. He was an
absolute ruler who ruled men with impunity. Pharoah considered himself
divine, he was protected by high priests and even shown the way through
the bardo state, to come back and be.....Pharoah, yes they figured it all
out and enslaved the sons of men. (sodomy)

God came to the rescue of the slaves of goshen. That much is clear, but
they still had to empower themselves with freedom. They did not resort
to murder, only Moses did that, and that was to kill and egyptian.

The plagues came, and each plague represented a 'freedom' that had been
taken from the sons of men, by the fallen angels who took on the flesh.

Each plague that came upon Egypt was because they had categorically
denied any freedoms to the sons of men. Each plague corresponds to
a commandment. Each commandement was given so that men would
be judged by the law, and not by men who rule by absolute power.

Pharoah considered himself god. Remember that the Pharoah could commune in all three realities, and did so. The first reality was completely ruled by
Pharoah, because he could traverse the other two. We see this clearly
with Edgar Cayce, who left his body and entered the other two realities,
he remembered how to do this, because he was a High priest of Egypt,
Roo Ta.

The masses were enslaved in the first reality. It is the reason that the
pyramids were built, to keep the mass consciousness of the people set
in stone. Set in Carbon consciousness, in the physical body.

Pharoah had no reason to fear the god of the habiru, or wanderers. He
had gathered up the wanderers (sons of men) and they were all under
his control.

God said, that he would destroy the Ammonite (practioner of the
secret (sod) of the (dam) blood, from off the face of the earth.

So moses led the children of Abraham out of Egypt, he killed Pharoah,
and his first born, by giving birth to Gershon, (a stranger in a strange
land). He cut off the bloodline that these nephilim were using to
incarnate and reincarnate through. (Egyptian book of the dead).

Pharoah was not unlike the Dalai Lama, who has been incarnating along
with other panchen lamas for the past 1300 years, creating an absolute
theocracy wherein the people become enslaved by him and can only
be saved by following him.

The dalai lama originally left china because those high priests protected
the power block and the bloodline of the chinese Emperor. For the same
reason that the high priests of egypt protected the pharoah.

The dalai lama felt he was invincible. And just like the Pharoah of
Egypt, the dalai lama who ruled with absolute tyranny, (punishment
to the masses meant gouging eyes out and amputations, along with
imprisonment and death.) saw the red tide come also.....

It's obvious that people do not understand what sodomy truly is and
how it has affected life on earth.....

hp