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Why Moses and Elijah at the transfiguration?
20 But," he said, "you cannot see my face, for no one may see me and live." ~ Exodus 33:20
11 The LORD would speak to Moses face to face, as a man speaks with his friend. Then Moses would return to the camp, but his young aide Joshua son of Nun did not leave the tent. ~ Exodus 33:11 13 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man. ~ John 3:13 11 As they were walking along and talking together, suddenly a chariot of fire and horses of fire appeared and separated the two of them, and Elijah went up to heaven in a whirlwind. ~ 2 Kings 2:11 Is this special exemption status for Moses and Elijah somehow tied to their presence at the transfiguration? |
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Christ as came the fulfilment of scripture and God's plan.
Moses represented the Law while Elijah represented the Prophets. The Transfiguartion showed that there was no conflict between the Law and Prophets on the one hand and Christ as God's Son. He is the Logos, the word of God. Regarding Moses' end, he did die as noted in Deut. 34:5-8 while Elijah ascended to heaven via the chariot of fire. |
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And why did Paul think Jesus was the 'first-fruits' when Moses clearly returned from the grave to Earth and never died again?
Surely Moses was the first person resurrected? |
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http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/yonge/book25.html And some time afterwards, when he [Moses] was about to depart from hence to heaven, to take up his abode there, and leaving this mortal life to become immortal, having been summoned by the Father, who now changed him, having previously been a double being, composed of soul and body, into the nature of a single body... IMO Paul believed that Jesus, the initiator of the New Covenant, also was resurrected as a single body. I used to believe that Paul was referring to a spiritual resurrection only, but now I think that Paul referred to a physical resurrection -- thus Paul believed in the empty tomb. |
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And all along I had thought for some reason Satan wanted his body. Maybe they were just having a good intellectual dispute about which body and what type of body it was? |
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Mosses went against the Pharaoh
Elijah went against the King Jesus went against the Emperor All were the sons of men taking a stand against the rulers of man in the name of the lord. Taking a stand against the man. The transfiguration Mathew 17:5 And a voice from the cloud said, "This is my beloved Son,[a] with whom I am well pleased; listen to him." John 12:31 “Now is the judgment of this world; now will the ruler of this world be cast out.” |
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According to Malachi, Elijah had to be there...
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Regarding the transfiguration scene, this phrase in Mark has always puzzled me: Quote:
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