ohmi

The House of Israel was scattered amongst all nations long before Jesus came , the 'disapora' affected only the Jews.

The House of Israel ['Northern kingdom in the land of Israel] never accepted Judaism , never became Jews, and God denied them worship of Him until Jesus and the apostles were sent with the gospel [Heb 8:8-12] specifically granting grace only to the Jews [House of Judah] and the House of Israel :-

Deuteronomy 28:64 And the LORD shall scatter thee among all people, from the one end of the earth even unto the other; and there thou shalt serve other gods, which neither thou nor thy fathers have known, even wood and stone.

ohmi

There are many theories about that, speculative indeed partly because of the tiescale involved... the points made in scripture are clearer :-

-1. Only a remnant 12,000 from just twelve of the tribes [excluding Dan and Ephraim] will be sealed in this life as saints and taken by Jesus at his return -Rev 7:3-8 - these then are the FEW who find the narrow way [sainthood, departing from all iniquity after spirit baptism and before death]
- the many being saved after this -Rev 7:9-10 -, not at Jesus' return because the many are not saints in this life, cannot thus be translated to spirit until they are perfected in Love by trial AFTER resurrection [thus afte the second resurrection, of the unjust]

-2. The whole of Israel [Jews and non-Jews] is destined to be a nation of priests and kings in the kingdom of God since this promise from God has never been realised in history :-

Exodus 19:6 And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.

This thus can only happen after the millenium [and before judgment day] since most of Israel died sinners and cannot live again until the resurrection of the unjust, the second resurrection]

Thus even the efforts being made in modern Israel to find genetic markers to distinguish 'Israel' from 'non-Israel' are an utter waste of effort, the Messiah will take only saints and has said how many ... that the number is NOT symbolic is shown by Enoch [quoted by Jude] - note that in the Hebrew of Enoch 1 the word for 'ten thousands' is unambiguous , unlike the Greek of Jude , this really does mean only tens of thousands of saints wth Jesus at his return , or as Jesus said more exactly, 144,000 :-

Jude 1:14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,

Smullyan-esque

Because Jesus is a fictional character. Even for Christians, picking and choosing what to pay attention to in the Bible is de rigeur.

GenesisNemesis

I don't see the relevance. :huh:

arnoldo

Basically, the Abrahamic covenant has been extended not only to include the physical descendants of Abraham (through the line of Issac, not Ishmael) to also include the gentiles believers. Much of letters of Paul discuss this issue in depth.

In reference to the "Lost Tribes of Israel/Jews" they will all eventually return to Israel/the State of Israel.

ohmi

Why do you not read what Paul actually says in the scripture s -Heb 8:8-12 ?

-1.- The old covenant is not in any way "extended" but ready to vanish away :-

-2.- And the new covenant of grace is ONLY with those whose fathers broke the old covenant :-


Where do you get that from?

ohmi

Read Rev 13 ... the antichrist is given power over all the religion of the world to cause all men to worship the false image of a christ figure [already with us in modern religion] ...

Eldarion Lathria

Why do Christians ignore what the Buddha said? Where are Christians on the Eightfold path? Is it because they don't believe the Buddha really attained enlightenment? But there are all those writings that said he did.

See, the same thing can be said about Christians. Why do you ignore what the Buddha said.

Eldarion Lathria

adren@line

Mohhamed was an Arab Semite who lived in the same area of the world from which Jesus originated. They essentially belonged to the same culture.

Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs, Jains, Daoists, etc have no reason to care about Jesus as Christianity offers us nothing that our religions cannot. In-fact, id say it offers less.

arnoldo

Buddha is a myth