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05-17-2008, 10:26 AM | #1 |
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Why do all religions ignore what Jesus said?
Why does Jesus say explicitly that he was sent by God ONLY to the House of Israel and why does every religion in the world ignore this specific statement made by Jesus ? :-
Matthew 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the House of Israel. Zechariah 8:13 And it shall come to pass, that as ye were a curse among the heathen, O House of Judah, and House of Israel; so will I save you, and ye shall be a blessing: fear not, but let your hands be strong. Matthew 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ. Hebrews 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah: Hebrews 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: |
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Yes, Ohmi, during Yeshua's earthly ministry he was sent only to Israel. After the resurrection, Yeshua sent the disciples to ALL NATIONS which is why the time we are currently living in is known as the time of the gentiles.
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I don't understand why other religions should not ignore what Jesus said.
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Because Jesus was a Jewish dude brought up in Jewish culture. Others care about Jesus as much as Jews cared about the Buddha.
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The REAL 'commission' of Jesus in scripture : Matt 10:5
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Matt 10:5 ΒΆ These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: 6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the House of Israel. Amos 9:9 For, lo, I will command, and I will sift the house of Israel among all nations, like as corn is sifted in a sieve, yet shall not the least grain fall upon the earth. |
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The House of Israel never became Jews, but Jesus was sent by God ONLY to them ...
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Also, whilst Jesus is indeed a Jew, the House of Israel to whom Jesus himself said [Matt 10:5-6, above quoted] he was alone sent by God , NEVER accepted Judaism, never became Jews! Deuteronomy 28:64 And the LORD shall scatter thee among all people, from the one end of the earth even unto the other; and there thou shalt serve other gods, which neither thou nor thy fathers have known, even wood and stone. |
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The Quran talks about Jesus and his statements as much as Muhammad, however, the statements in the NT might not be really Jesus statements.
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In Jesus' first synagogue appearance (Lk 4) he says that he is the messiah and is well received by the crown, but then says he will be like Elijah and Elisha who helped gentiles (the widow of Zarephath, and Naaman) during times of Jewish distress. At that point the crowd becomes enraged and tries to throw him off a cliff.
So he did, in fact, explicitly say that he would eventually serve the gentile world. As for why people ignore what Jesus says for other instances, I would guess it's because they haven't read the bible? For instance Jesus tells people to pray privately where no one can hear you, and to not make a big show about praying, but people do make a big show about praying (look at megachurches!). And he also told people not to call their leaders "father," and they do exactly that all the time. Those are just a couple examples. Another reason it might appear that people ignore what Jesus said is that he (Jesus) seems to contradict himself a lot, so paying attention to one statement might appear to be eschewing another (as is the case with the topic of this thread). |
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